rage against the machine for christmas no1!

[ampersand]

Shame on you, spending money on a cynical chart battle.

[Tugger2k]

yeah now that i think about it, he's not much better than leon jackson is he?

[dakyras]

If people want to stick it to Simon Cowell then not buying into his speciality - seasonal chart-busting pop songs, would be a start. That means ignorring it, not putting importance in it, not fuelling that particular ugly aspect of the industry with even more fire. It's adding legitimacy to the market in which Cowell works. If people really want to end that, they have to burn the market down, not prop it up with an alternative.

Edited December 16, 2009 by dakyras

[Kowalski]

If you want the world to be a better place, just don't pay attention to the charts. It really is that simple. This Killing In The Name phenomenon has been pretty interesting, in that I've never really seen so many people completely miss the mark.

If people want to stick it to Simon Cowell then not buying into his speciality - seasonal chart-busting pop songs, would be a start. That means ignorring it, not putting importance in it, not fuelling that particular ugly aspect of the industry with even more fire. It's adding legitimacy to the market in which Cowell works. If people really want to end that, they have to burn the market down, not prop it up with an alternative.

Quantifying art with a hierarchy like a pop chart unravels it, it ceases to be art in almost every way once that becomes it's chief goal. It just becomes a list of stuff that people "like an' that" and you don't belong if you haven't got this latest thing.

The best form of protest is to not buy into anything at face value, not to buy into Christmas as a commercial product, that's where I'd personally start if I really wanted to hit Cowell where it hurt, because then his environment would collapse. But then people seem to be unable to question their actions and motivations because that could lead to some actual change in the world, and that's far too dangerous and scary.

Cowell must be laughing his arse off to be honest. He's helped reduce people's brains to such mushy, lazy, apathetic goo that even when they "fight back", they still play right into his hands.

[Kowalski]

i'm not spending, i'm earning.

[ampersand]

What about those of us that have never bought into his "seasonal chart-busting pop songs"?

[ampersand]

Probably spent more money on this than I have. Hypocrite.

Edited December 16, 2009 by ampersand

[Kowalski]

continue not to do so? woops, too late.

[Kowalski]

yeah, i thought 69p on a bet was a bit silly.

thing is, no-one told me to put the bet on.

Edited December 16, 2009 by Kowalski

[ampersand]

Yeah my X Factor CD arrived this morning.

[plaskins]

[dakyras]

don't quite understand the term 'buying into' do you?

buying a single to compete with simon, is buying into the whole thing. you are giving him credit by trying to topple him. you are saying that he has something that is worth toppling.

[plaskins]

Why should Joe McElderflower be an automatic Xmas number one just for winning a Karaoke competition?

'Killing in the Name of' is miles better than Joe's cover of 'The Climb' anyhow..

[ampersand]

He does. He has stagnated the music industry.

Нравится вам или нет, но история на нашей стороне. Мы вас закопаем!

[dakyras]

has he? was the music industry really so different 8 years ago?

he has ruined the christmas number 1, i'll give you that. and the xfactor is a giant advertising board for what happens in the charts for 12 weeks of the year. but apart from that, i don't see how it's so different.

[ampersand]

Why should Joe McElderflower be an automatic Xmas number one just for winning a Karaoke competition?

'Killing in the Name of' is miles better than Joe's cover of 'The Climb' anyhow..

[-pogo-]

RATM getting to number one is simply a bit of fun, but also challenbges British attitudes which hate change. It's so monotumous, x factor winner, christmas no 1, disapears, next year start again.

It's a joke but it will also be a very good way to show up boring britain.

[ampersand]

RATM getting to number one is simply a bit of fun, but also challenbges British attitudes which hate change. It's so monotumous, x factor winner, christmas no 1, disapears, next year start again.

It's a joke but it will also be a very good way to show up boring britain.

[-pogo-]

i have still to be answered on why this is a bit of fun, but people buying a song they like by the xfactor winner is deadly serious?

[plaskins]

so good, you know the title of it and everything. /pedint

[Kowalski]

He does. He has stagnated the music industry.

[Kowalski]

don't quite understand the term 'buying into' do you?

buying a single to compete with simon, is buying into the whole thing. you are giving him credit by trying to topple him. you are saying that he has something that is worth toppling.

[ampersand]

Sorry mate. Has my style of posting offended you? If I was that pendantic, I would have looked up, and used, the correct spelling of Joe's surname..

RATM > Joe (is that better?)

That's the whole point of this campaign, to buck the 'trend' of X Factor's dominance with christmas number 1s. Personally, I hope it's successful

[ampersand]

He's also responsible for people having attitudes like this...

Quite sad really.

[5co77ie]

press release:

Wednesday 16th December 2009

RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE LOOKS ODDS-ON FOR CHRISTMAS NO. 1

"Cowell will be raging as Joe becomes betting outsider..."

A FACEBOOK group set up to prevent Joe McElderry from having the Christmas No. 1 single sensationally appears to be on the verge of success, with the chances of a non-X Factor No. 1 now odds-on, according to Betfair customers.

Only two days ago, McElderry was as short as 1-6 on to be announced as a chart-topper this Sunday yet now his odds amazingly stand at Evens, with the price of a non-X Factor Xmas song triumphing just 10-11.

The field's charge is monopolised by Rage Against The Machine's 'Killing In The Name Of', which is the track that the online anti- X Factor brigade have urged supporters to download.

Betfair spokesman Ari Last said: "We were aware that the online campaign was gathering pace, yet even so, the dramatic development of Joe no longer being the favourite is a major surprise.

"Sunday's announcement now looks like being one of the most anticipated Christmas chart shows of recent times."