rage against the machine for christmas no1!

[Purple Monkey]

As far as I can see the only hypocrisy about the RATM song is the fact that it shouts f**k YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME, and then we are being told to go out and buy it to make this year's christmas number 1 a bit different.

But there's a difference between a group set up by individuals with no actual financial (or other) interest apart from that which it means to achieve and what X Factor sets out to achieve.

Which is not the same as here is a song manufactured by a totally fabricated performer, performed by another, who's soul aim is to sell a load of singles at Christmas, and then possibly have a couple of hits after that, although I don't think this one will.

Either way, it's not actually stopping people from buying Joe's single, it just shows that there is something else that a large number of people would rather listen to, which even if the song doesn't get to number 1, that point will have been made.

Surrounded by calls of, oh, just let him have his minute of fame, and don't be so mean to the poor boy at Christmas... What a load of crap!

Edited December 18, 2009 by Purple Monkey

[ampersand]

I'm just having some fun at xmas!

[Kowalski]

hypocrites, innit.

but nah, that'll be cos i'm reading too much into it, not cos it's actually true.

[Kowalski]

and the people buying joe? not for fun and enjoyment?

[llcoolphil]

yeah they were grass roots man. started in their basement and worked the small clubs for years before being spotted by a company and rewarded for their years of hard work. keeping it real!

[ampersand]

Who's being hypocritical? Two groups of people are buying a single.

[dakyras]

choice of song. lyrics in said song. head against brick wall. sake!

[ampersand]

I think you'll find the creator of the group is more than aware of the ironic choice. It's the reason he chose it.

[dakyras]

of course it was.

that's like the pogo excuse of saying something serious, realising it was stupid and then claiming it was a joke.

Edited December 18, 2009 by dakyras

[Langdale Wolf]

Is it too late to start a Facebook group telling people to download a third contender?

Funky Moped by Jasper Carrott or something?

[ampersand]

And more to the point, this guy has nothing to gain from people doing what he tells them. He isn't forcing me to do anything. I like the idea, so bought the track.

You need to lighten up.

[llcoolphil]

Is it too late to start a Facebook group telling people to download a third contender?

Funky Moped by Jasper Carrott or something?

[Kyelo]

Funky Moped by Jasper Carrott or something?

[dakyras]

and simon is forcing people to buy it? sorry you're completely right.

think the facebook brigade need to lighten up. someone releases a song every year and it gets to number 1. so what?

and i will ask a third time. surely it's the songwriter that is having the merry christmas, not simon.

[Langdale Wolf]

Would you still get Magic Roundabout as a B side?

[ampersand]

Where has anyone said Simon Cowell is forcing anyone to buy the single? You're completely missing the point. And it's not about financial gain either. Jesus Christ you're slow.

[llcoolphil]

and simon is forcing people to buy it? sorry you're completely right.

[irons]

and the people buying joe? not for fun and enjoyment?

[5co77ie]

C'mon Rage, only tomorrow to go to outsell him.

[ampersand]

No but he has an unbelievable amount of marketing going on for it

no shit. he wants it to sell. still not spoon feeding people.

Because the continued media focus on x factor benefits the individual who benefits most from x factor. Next.

[ampersand]

What are the scores on the doors?

[Guest Flip]

..first time I have been even remotely interested in the Crimbo number 1.

C'mon Rage Against the Machine I say!!

[Kowalski]

choice of song. lyrics in said song. head against brick wall. sake!

[Kowalski]

Is it too late to start a Facebook group telling people to download a third contender?

Funky Moped by Jasper Carrott or something?

[Kowalski]

it's your counter argument. the reason the song was picked. tom morello said something along the lines of people being spoon fed, as if it was against their will. it's so f**kin condescending. oh look, our music is better than yours so we'll act like a bunch of dicks about it.

what's not about financial gain? the facebook campaign? i know, it's not. i'm not a mongaloid.