Things that annoy you ?

[russycarps]

LAMINATE flooring! Ugh how common

[The Nal]

LAMINATE flooring! Ugh how common

[russycarps]

Not when the plastic in the laminate is made from the tears of African Clawless Otters its not. As Barry's is.

Edited July 16, 2012 by russycarps

[ninjahamster]

The fact that we will probably not get any decent weather this summer and it will slip into winter in no time...

[sifi]

Panic over everyone. Bazza's floor can be fixed.

Travel agent messed up booking of flight from tel aviv to larnaca, ended up costing 80 euros more than it needed to be.

[Guest musiclove123]

Things are changing. People are now openly discussing their symptoms, even when those symptoms include hallucinations.

Though they're still loath to call them psychotic symptoms, because of the unfortunate association of the word with psycho/psychopath.

Edited July 17, 2012 by musiclove123

[feral chile]

Things are changing slowly yes but not fast enough. There is still an elephant in the room and the stigma sticks around. Some people don't realise depression is a serious and real illness that causes people to give up on life. It has physical and mental symptoms. I tried to raise awareness once and I was told that what I was doing was 'depressing' and stop. That is the attitude some people have. Yes it isn't a happy subject but neither is cancer but people talk about that openly. I want it to be like that for mental health because 50 percent is the keeping it hidden. The symptoms are bad enough without being treated like a freak or ignored

[kaosmark2]

It used to be like that for cancer, too. Depression is something that's difficult to understand if you haven't been through it. And even for those who have, it's easy to forget just how debilitating it can be. It's such an altered state of consciousness that it's difficult to get through to people that you can't be persuaded rationally back to health.

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

Things are changing slowly yes but not fast enough. There is still an elephant in the room and the stigma sticks around. Some people don't realise depression is a serious and real illness that causes people to give up on life. It has physical and mental symptoms. I tried to raise awareness once and I was told that what I was doing was 'depressing' and stop. That is the attitude some people have. Yes it isn't a happy subject but neither is cancer but people talk about that openly. I want it to be like that for mental health because 50 percent is the keeping it hidden. The symptoms are bad enough without being treated like a freak or ignored

[kaosmark2]

But most people don't want to talk about any ailments, surely. They just want to get on with their lives and face the strains that they have to face. I suffer from depression but have no desire to thrust my views on the subject onto others other than those charged with dealing with the issue. Actually I don't even do that. I tend to take to the bed for a very long time.

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

I don't have any problem with any associated stigma, but don't ever want to talk about my problems when I'm in the throes of depression. I guess all sufferers are different though.

The people that are affected by my depression are me, my family and friends and people at work. The buck up attitude is more likely to be a work based thing with me, if at all. My response to that kind of treatment would be to get another sick note. I have had to go to the company doctor though a couple of times. they said it was procedure but I can't help thinking it's because they thought I was 'swinging the lead' and skiving off work. I'll never know. I do know, however, that I'd much prefer to be at work than in a state of depression.

[kaosmark2]

I've had a real problem with some stigma. I had a lot of time off work (with physical illnesses), and asked the doctor why I was getting flu-like illnesses so frequently. Every time I got one I went to the doctor, got told "flu, bed rest, fluids, week off work", signed off, etc. But my work got sick of it, and asked me to find an ongoing reason for the frequency. My GP said it was probably due to my long-term issues with depression (I didn't feel like I was sufferring badly at the time), but I told my boss at work that diagnosis. Next time I was off ill with flu? My sick pay got taken away (ie. downgraded to SSP rather than full-pay). I got accused of skiving a couple of times. My rate of illness actually increased, and I was quick to point out that I wouldn't skive considering I didn't get properly paid on days off, but it caused me a lot of hassle. I didn't even ever take time off due to feeling depressed, it just manifests itself as physical symptoms as I get worn out and stressed. Still, however unhelpful work were, nowhere near as bad as my parents and a mate I used to consider one of my closest friends.

I guess I do like to talk about my problems, although that tends to be when I start to recover from a bad phase rather than while actually feeling truly crap with it. Everyone's different though, and probably the thing that most winds me up is people who have/had depression and insist that you do things in the exact way that made them feel better, even more than the idiotic, intolerant w*nkers you get sometimes.

I wasn't meaning to suggest that everyone who doesn't talk about their difficulties is choosing not to out of fear though. That'd be as ignorant as some of the attitudes I'm condemning.

[Rufus Gwertigan]

aww man thats really depressing! lol I really really get annoyed at cat pictures on facebook....seriously people its not big and its not clever

[Purple Monkey]

Its all the inspirational pictures and quotes I can't stand. All the shit about friends or love or some hippy bollocks which people will mindlessly like as though it is going to change their life. Apart from kiddy fiddlers and idiot rioters how many people can say they have put or read something on Facebook and it changed their life. Dont get me started on the cats.

Edited July 18, 2012 by Purple Monkey

[feral chile]

I don't think it's just a case of whether you've been through it though. There's so much about it that varies between people, different ways of dealing with it than can make things worse for some while better for others. The way depression manifests itself between people is as variable as the people themselves.

Edited July 18, 2012 by feral chile

[feral chile]

Its all the inspirational pictures and quotes I can't stand. All the shit about friends or love or some hippy bollocks which people will mindlessly like as though it is going to change their life. Apart from kiddy fiddlers and idiot rioters how many people can say they have put or read something on Facebook and it changed their life. Dont get me started on the cats.

[feral chile]

Facebook pisses me off, I kinda like it and hate it at the same time. Most of it is junk, but sometimes a friend will post up something truly educational and worthwhile. Full of useless information usually and anything of real worth is skimmed over or ignored due to the A.D.D mindset it encourages. I've also dropped a few 'friends' because of the ignorant shit they've posted - sometimes Facebook is good for making enemies, in a good way (no seriously, I'd rather not be friends with some people, and Facebook is a good way of weeding out the dick heads).

Some of my family members post some of the dumbest shit I've ever read on there though, to the point where I don't ever want to speak to them in family get-togethers. Mainly relatives over 50 - all thick as fuck, can't spell properly, usually racist and pig ignorant. An aunt of mine keeps banging on about "supporting the troops protecting our freedoms" and I swear I'm this close to ranting the fuck out. I have one relative who keeps changing her marital status from "single" to "engaged" and back again every week, so I know she's a mental and one to avoid, so that's good. I get to see it all.

Most of the time it's like going on a forum with the IQ capped at 12.

[Purple Monkey]

These friends you've dropped - I take it you're sure you haven't misinterpreted their sentiment in posting?

None of the people on my Facebook have changed my perception of them at all.

[kaosmark2]

yes, I know. But what I mean is that, unless you've suffered from a mental illness, you can't imagine how it totally fucks up your brain chemistry. So you'll think you can reason people out of it.

I knew someone who committed suicide, and at the time, I thought if someone could have used the right argument, said the right things, they could have persuaded him not to do it.

But now I'm older, and more experienced, I realise that words alone can't correct brain chemistry. Because they can't cut through the mental turmoil. You can't rationalise mental illness away. To think you can, is a grossl underestimation of the magnitude of the effects of mental illness.

I'm agreeing with you, in other words. There is no quick fix and you can't generalise from how you think, to how someone else is experiencing their own mental processes.

Sorry if I didn't explain myself well.

[feral chile]

I wonder how much of it is not wanting to talk about the problems and how much is fear of the stigma associated.

Also, it's not that people with cancer talk about their problems openly, it's that it's widely acknowledged as a major issue that should be sought to be cured, by society in general, not just those who have/had it. Depression on the other hand, still carries a significant attitude of "Buck up" and the like.

[kaosmark2]

I'm old enough to remember that cancer also had a stigma attached to it. As did being a victim of child abuse or sexual assault.

Stigma is suffered by anyone perceived as different. Anyone who suffers from perceived otherness.

Talking about our experiences helps people to realise they're not alone in experiencing things. And takes away the fear associated with unfamiliarity, for those who haven't experienced it.

We still have a stereotypical notion of mental illness.

(Though I have an issue with labelling generally, because it stimulates our categorisation bias, which encourages generalisation, and misleads us into thinking of mental health as a dichotomy of well/unwell, rather than as a continuum),

[Rufus Gwertigan]

Facebook pisses me off, I kinda like it and hate it at the same time. Most of it is junk, but sometimes a friend will post up something truly educational and worthwhile. Full of useless information usually and anything of real worth is skimmed over or ignored due to the A.D.D mindset it encourages. I've also dropped a few 'friends' because of the ignorant shit they've posted - sometimes Facebook is good for making enemies, in a good way (no seriously, I'd rather not be friends with some people, and Facebook is a good way of weeding out the dick heads).

Some of my family members post some of the dumbest shit I've ever read on there though, to the point where I don't ever want to speak to them in family get-togethers. Mainly relatives over 50 - all thick as fuck, can't spell properly, usually racist and pig ignorant. An aunt of mine keeps banging on about "supporting the troops protecting our freedoms" and I swear I'm this close to ranting the fuck out. I have one relative who keeps changing her marital status from "single" to "engaged" and back again every week, so I know she's a mental and one to avoid, so that's good. I get to see it all.

Most of the time it's like going on a forum with the IQ capped at 12.

[Purple Monkey]

That is an issue with me in general. Some one blocked me after they had posted that they were proud of our troops and that we should support them, and politicians are bad as they send the troops to do work that they will not do themselves. I added that the troops volunteer to do what the politicians tell them (they actually swear an oath) and if they did not like their job they could always leave, but at the end of the day soldiers are soldiers because they enjoy what they do. Why should I support people that are happy to undertake state sanctioned killing.

Well I may well have said that I have just sodomised a cat for the reaction I got.

Edited July 18, 2012 by Purple Monkey

[eFestivals]

That is an issue with me in general. Some one blocked me after they had posted that they were proud of our troops and that we should support them, and politicians are bad as they send the troops to do work that they will not do themselves. I added that the troops volunteer to do what the politicians tell them (they actually swear an oath) and if they did not like their job they could always leave, but at the end of the day soldiers are soldiers because they enjoy what they do. Why should I support people that are happy to undertake state sanctioned killing.

Well I may well have said that I have just sodomised a cat for the reaction I got.

Nah. If you'd posted that you'd sodomised a cat the amount of outrage would have been 100% times higher.

It's one thing to be (in some people's eyes) shitty about other humans, but on facebook - or the internet in general - there's nothing worse than cat cruelty.

[kaosmark2]

Nah. If you'd posted that you'd sodomised a cat the amount of outrage would have been 100% times higher.

It's one thing to be (in some people's eyes) shitty about other humans, but on facebook - or the internet in general - there's nothing worse than cat cruelty.