World Cup 2010

[Langdale Wolf]

Tis all about opinion is it not LW? In mine, Spain and England have no chance. Hence me saying so. Tis not daft in the slightest...only time will tell

[Cardboard Box City]

If TGT weren't so old he could be considered far too cool for school

[TheGayTent]

Of course it is. I'm merely disagreeing with you. As - I'm sure - will most other people. If you're right, feel free to come on here on July 12th with a satisfied, smug grin.

As far as I'm concerned, Spain are the favourites and rightly so. I'm looking forward to watching them too.

[st dan]

Tis all about opinion is it not LW? In mine, Spain and England have no chance. Hence me saying so. Tis not daft in the slightest...only time will tell

Edited May 10, 2010 by st dan

[Langdale Wolf]

LW - I'll be smug a long time before July 12th

[TheGayTent]

So two of the bookies favourites and on form teams in the world have 'no chance' of winning it in your opinion.

Even though it is your opinion .. The 'no chance' is wrong as all 32 teams have a chance, and England and Spain have much more chance than Algeria, North Korea and the likes.

So your opinion is actually wrong.

[ThomThomDrum]

To say England and Spain will not win the cup is one thing and is an opinion.........to say neither have a chance is plain stupidity!

Every country at the finals has a "chance" weather that chance is big or small........the fact that they are there gives them a chance. If you dont understand that then I am sorry.......you will just have to accept it.

ireland, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales have "no chance" of winning it..........

See the logic?

Edited May 10, 2010 by ThomThomDrum

[st dan]

On another note, if Heskey gets on the plane and Darren Bent doesnt, then that really is criminal.

Bent has 25 goals in 39 games this season.

Heskey has 4 goals in 41 games (although he has been a substitute on a regular basis)

Capello has said from day 1 that he will take who is in form, and quite clearly it is easy to see that Heskey's goal ratio is embarrassing. Ashley Cole has 5 goals this season, and he is a left back who was injured for two months !!

I know he holds the ball up well, and plays well with Rooney, but hehas only 7 goals in 57 games for England. If he plays it basically loses us a striker, and heaps too much pressure on Wayne to deliver.

He shouldnt be in the squad, let alone anywhere near the starting line up.

[TheGayTent]

To say England and Spain will not win the cup is one thing and is an opinion.........to say neither have a chance is plain stupidity!

Every country at the finals has a "chance" weather that chance is big or small........the fact that they are there gives them a chance. If you dont understand that then I am sorry.......you will just have to accept it.

ireland, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales have "no chance" of winning it..........

See the logic?

[Langdale Wolf]

On another note, if Heskey gets on the plane and Darren Bent doesnt, then that really is criminal.

Bent has 25 goals in 39 games this season.

Heskey has 4 goals in 41 games (although he has been a substitute on a regular basis)

Capello has said from day 1 that he will take who is in form, and quite clearly it is easy to see that Heskey's goal ratio is embarrassing. Ashley Cole has 5 goals this season, and he is a left back who was injured for two months !!

I know he holds the ball up well, and plays well with Rooney, but hehas only 7 goals in 57 games for England. If he plays it basically loses us a striker, and heaps too much pressure on Wayne to deliver.

He shouldnt be in the squad, let alone anywhere near the starting line up.

[TheGayTent]

Didn't you say we would go down this season and that Doyle was a crap signing?

[st dan]

All 32 teams in the competition have the same statistical chance of winning.

However, IYO, you believe England and Spain have a better chance of winning than Algeria and North Korea. Which is no different to me saying that Spain or England have no chance. Both are opinions.

[ThomThomDrum]

It's only stupidity if you believe England and Spain do have a chance of winning. If you don't believe they do, it's not stupid at all. To me, it's not stupid at all.

What is stupid to me is confusing 'weather' and 'whether'. I'm sure to others, that's not stupid at all.

[TheGayTent]

Spelling is hardly a measure of Intelligence......

Understanding what "chance" means does require some level of it however........You seem to lack that

[The Nal]

I trust Capello 100% whoever he picks. He hasn't let us down yet.

[st dan]

Rooney's game is much improved by playing alongside Heskey though. Heskey isn't there to score goals. Which is a good f**king job.

I'm not saying I'm a massive Heskey fan, but I can see why he'd go and Bent wouldn't.

[TheGayTent]

So although all teams could win it, you are saying that NZ and Spain have equal chance of winning it?

[ThomThomDrum]

You think all previous winner of the World Cup have done so by chance?

[ThomThomDrum]

Statistically, yes.

[TheGayTent]

Thats not what I said or implied........so obviously you are having an internal dialogue with ones self or drawing conclusions based on very little information..........

[TheGayTent]

So you are saying that England and Spain have a chance? Make up your mind!

[Langdale Wolf]

That is very true. I got that one wrong!

Still, if you're going to be a fair sportsmen, you'll mention the other things I said about Wolves and acknowledge I was right...

[st dan]

All those things you list may have some influence when the bookies decide on the odds they offer. They don't all (necessarily) influence one's opinion on whether a team has a chance of winning the tournament though.

[TheGayTent]

Since the World Cup began in 1930, there have only been 7 countries that have won it:

Brazil - 5 times

Italy - 4 times

Germany - 3 times

Argentina - 2 times

Uruguay - 2 times

France - 1 time

England - 1 time

So this eqaul chance of every team winning that you suggest, how come this is the case?

Equal chance would have caused a shock somewhere along the line.

Chile

Ghana

Paraguay

Cameroon

Uruguay

Denmark

Nigeria

Australia

South Africa

Greece

Switzerland

South Korea

Slovakia

Slovenia

Japan

Algeria

Honduras

Korea DPR

New Zealand

And, you think any of these can realistically win it?

And you've so confidently ruled Spain and England out. Hmmmmm ...

[ThomThomDrum]

Will you come back and post when England and Spain get knocked out?

Edited May 10, 2010 by ThomThomDrum