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good article in the spectator:

What the papers won’t say

interesting piece, nice analogy to start off with. :)

I've had to laugh at today's Sun. Having realised this is now a story too big to ignore, the hacking has - finally - made today's Sun front page. In a box that's about one inch square, hidden away on the page as best as they can manage. :lol:

Anyone might think that they're trying to not report the story, hoping that the public will forget about it, and it'll all go away. :lol:

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I've already said how bad I think all this is, and it is great that people are outraged by it, but why did no-one care when it was celebs. Yes, they court publicity and work with the press in some dubious ways when it suits them, and some of them are just really f**king annoying, but it was just as illegal, and they had just as much right to not have their phones hacked.

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I've already said how bad I think all this is, and it is great that people are outraged by it, but why did no-one care when it was celebs. Yes, they court publicity and work with the press in some dubious ways when it suits them, and some of them are just really f**king annoying, but it was just as illegal, and they had just as much right to not have their phones hacked.

it's pretty simple really - the public see celebs as fair game, and it's not something which is ever going to effect the public while it's just celebs.

But it's now becoming clear that the hacking has been habitual, that they've been hacking anyone around any half-big story, to try and get whatever extra details they can to flesh out any story, to make it just that little bit more interesting. And you can be damned sure that if NoTW was doing it habitually then every other tabloid has been doing the same thing.

It's the police's job where there's reasonable suspicion of a crime to investigate whether there's really been a crime. If they aren't now going to every paper to ask for the details of any private investigators they've been using, to then raid those investigators to find out what they've been doing for those papers, then it's a political cover-up of the highest order.

I was sat watching Newsnight last night with the missus, who did her history dissertation on the Profumo affair - and she was saying that there's a mass of aspects of this case which matches that one. It'll be very interesting to see how this pans out - as was made clear in the Commons debate yesterday by the Labour shadow Justice Secretary, the politicians are running scared of the media. If they don't use this opportunity to grab them by the balls and show who's really running the country we might as well all join in with the new corrupt Britain and fill our boots just as those w*nkers have been doing.

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I was sat watching Newsnight last night with the missus, who did her history dissertation on the Profumo affair - and she was saying that there's a mass of aspects of this case which matches that one. It'll be very interesting to see how this pans out - as was made clear in the Commons debate yesterday by the Labour shadow Justice Secretary, the politicians are running scared of the media. If they don't use this opportunity to grab them by the balls and show who's really running the country we might as well all join in with the new corrupt Britain and fill our boots just as those w*nkers have been doing.

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f**k me, could there be a bigger flag saying just how desperate Murdoch is to get hold of Sky? Here's betting that'll get waived thru now by Rupert's mate Dave Moron, "because they've shown they're responsible by shutting down NoTW".

I saw something the other day which said NoTW is the world's biggest selling paper. I'm not entirely sure that's true, but if it is then killing it off shows real desperation.

And of course I'm guessing that they're hoping that closing it will help shut down the 'scandal'. Yet it's looking like Coulson is going to go down for perjury (the Tommy Sheridan trial), as well as for police corruption ... but if Rebbeca Brookes walks free from it all it's been a stitch-up - how many times can ex-NoTW journos appear on TV to state they were in the room when she approved hacking before she's strung up as she should be?

And of course Dave Moron is in the middle of all this. Let's hope something falls back on him too.

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I found this a strange story, there was a German right wing festival and shirts that had skulls & right wing flags on them were handed out that once you washed them read "If your t-shirt can do it, you can do it too -- we'll help you get away from right-wing extremism,". I like to see someone try that on the BNP or EDL over here.

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I notice the dog owner has been charged with "ordering his Alsatian dog to have sex with a 43-year-old mother of four". Now i've heard people order their dogs to do stuff by saying 'walkies, heel, sit' and even, 'shake a paw' to them, but what possible command would you use order a dog to poke some woman? How could the owner go about training his dog to do that? What dog obedience classes offer that as part of their syllabus?

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