Guns n Roses Appreciation Thread

[farewellandgoodnight]

Moscow last night

Edited June 9, 2010 by farewellandgoodnight

[Dave The Hedgehog]

Put quite simply - there's a reason why The Spaghetti Incident was so terrible. Covers. Live and Let Die and especially Knockin' On Heaven's Door are b-sides at best.

We all know that Guns N Roses can write a great song or two so there was no need for something like The Spaghetti Incident to ever be released. That was an album full of... well, filler. Think of U2's Rattle and Hum - and album/video of music consisting entirely of a great band at the top of their game buckling under the weight of their own ego. That's what happened to Guns N Roses on Use Your Illusion.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

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[Vieuphoria]

Put quite simply - there's a reason why The Spaghetti Incident was so terrible. Covers. Live and Let Die and especially Knockin' On Heaven's Door are b-sides at best.

We all know that Guns N Roses can write a great song or two so there was no need for something like The Spaghetti Incident to ever be released. That was an album full of... well, filler. Think of U2's Rattle and Hum - and album/video of music consisting entirely of a great band at the top of their game buckling under the weight of their own ego. That's what happened to Guns N Roses on Use Your Illusion.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

The Spaghetti Incident is a solid album... i really like it. I don't find any of the GnR covers bad at all... The only one i really dislike is Sympathy For The Devil.

[wheres the mudfight]

Use Your Illusion I

Live and Let Die

You Ain't The First

Bad Obsession

The Garden

Garden of Eden

Bad Apples

Dead Horse

Use Your Illusion II

Civil War

14 Years

Knockin' On Heaven's Door

Get In The Ring

Shotgun Blues

Estranged

Don't Cry (Alt)

My World

So what you'd be left with is...

Use Your Illusion

Double Talkin' Jive

Dust N' Bones

Don't Cry (Original Version)

Right Next Door to Hell

Perfect Crime

Yesterdays

Pretty Tied Up

Back off Bitch

November Rain

Don't Damn Me

Breakdown

Locomotive

Coma

So Fine

You Could Be Mine

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You jumble up the songs to create your own ideal Use Your Illusion.

As before, none of the songs that I took off are bad - they're just not really necessary to get the point of Use Your Illusion. Estranged was the hardest one to take off but I think you get enough pretentious epics with Coma and November Rain.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

I prefer the UYIs to Apetite anyway

[farewellandgoodnight]

My condensed UYI album would be similar but with Civil War. even if it's a bit corny. I'd swap for Dust and Bones. I prefer the UYIs to Apetite anyway

[lharris92]

[Vieuphoria]

The only thing stopping me from executing you with a Young's frozen cod fillet is the fact that you've seen Dinosaur Jr and Pavement this year, you musically sound bastard.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

Oh how little you know about me... some of the people i like would appaul you

Edited June 11, 2010 by Dave The Hedgehog

[wheres the mudfight]

[wheres the mudfight]

What what what...!?

[Dave The Hedgehog]

It's a disease, I've tried fighting it but, sadly, in vain. might give chinese democracy a listen as I've not heard a single note of it yet. was expecting it to be total bollocks but people here seem to think it's ok.

[farewellandgoodnight]

It's a disease, I've tried fighting it but, sadly, in vain. might give chinese democracy a listen as I've not heard a single note of it yet. was expecting it to be total bollocks but people here seem to think it's ok.

Edited June 11, 2010 by farewellandgoodnight

[wheres the mudfight]

Honestly, Chinese Democracy is a great album. It's never going to appear on any 'best of...' lists in the near immediate future, it's nothing that'll blow the world away (now at least), and it's quite difficult to swallow on first listen, but eventually you'll get it. For an album that some people had been waiting close to 20 years for, it may seem a bit anti-climactic but if you give it some time to fathom your way through the seemingly mountainous layers of sound, you'll feel rewarded when you uncover some of the most alienated, persecuted and most personal lyrics Axl has ever written amongst songs that, to be fair, aren't instant classics but are nevertheless really bloody good. Why they are really bloody good is a conversation for another day.

People who are newbies to Guns N Roses are a lot less accepting and quick to dismiss the album (and band) as just an Axl solo act, or a GNR tribute band - which isn't fair. The people you would expect to be upset about Guns N Roses are those faithful few who have stuck with them for years... and I haven't met a veteran fan yet who has anything bad to say about them. The reason being that we've matured with the Axl and the band, we've evolved with them and we've grown to understand them.

That level of understanding is what people should listen to; it's the level of understanding that drives Axl to keep going. He's making music for himself and the faithful few who can be bothered to stick around, and if you don't? Well, f**k you. Don't like the music? f**k you. Don't like the band? f**k you. That's his attitude.

A person who is new to Guns N Roses won't be as understanding because they will only expect the band they see on Kerrang - they will only accept what the world of rock music has provided for them, re-living memories that never happened from 1992 before most of them even existed. A band like Guns N Roses aren't nostalgic because they're a band who are constantly evolving - it's just that the public at large/The Kerrang Crowd aren't really allowing them the air to change and grow.

Edited June 11, 2010 by wheres the mudfight

[Dave The Hedgehog]

Still not enough to get me out of the tent for Alkaline Trio though

[wheres the mudfight]

Oh raspberries!

:angry:

[moff]

Judging by the repetitve nature of recent set lists, don't be surprised if the set at Leeds/Reading looks something like this:

1. Chinese Democracy

2. Welcome To The Jungle

3. It's So Easy

4. Mr. Brownstone

5. Sorry

6. Richard Fortus Guitar Solo [James Bond Theme]

7. Live And Let Die [Paul McCartney]

8. This I Love

9. Rocket Queen

10. Dizzy Reed Piano Solo

11. Street Of Dreams

12. You Could Be Mine

13. DJ Ashba Guitar Solo

14. Sweet Child O' Mine

15. Axl Rose Piano Solo

16. November Rain

17. Bumblefoot Guitar Solo [Pink Panther Theme]

18. Knockin' On Heaven's Door Cover[bob Dylan]

19. Nightrain

Encore

20. Madagascar

21. Better

22. Paradise City

[farewellandgoodnight]

Judging by the repetitve nature of recent set lists, don't be surprised if the set at Leeds/Reading looks something like this:

[moff]

Perhaps repetitive was the wrong turn of phrase to use. I simply meant that the setlists of late have been pretty much unchanged, and that if anybody was looking for an indication of what they're likely to see at R/L then that would be pretty close.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

Bump

'Tis a good thread and deserves more people.

By the way, I haven't been here in a while and have noticed the new forum layout - really dislike it.

[Gre]

I appreciate Was never really into GnR, saw them at leeds 2002, went out & bought Appetite as soon as I got home. Some of the videos of the 2002 still give me chills when I watch them.

Hell, any excuse to post;

One of the main reasons I wanna go this year.

Edited June 30, 2010 by Gre

[rexclark]

I appreciate Was never really into GnR, saw them at leeds 2002, went out & bought Appetite as soon as I got home. Some of the videos of the 2002 still give me chills when I watch them.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

I think I said it earlier in this thread but every time I've had the chance to see Guns N Roses post-2000 I've always been busy doing something else, working or none of my friends were around to accompany me. This will be my first chance to see the band I've grown up listening and I'll be damned if a load of dang-blasted-fang-blarnit pesky kids mess it up. Bastards.