Sparticus Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Seems my point about fans feeling compelled to give lists of songs was correct. At the end of the day, I've never heard of any of these songs. I don't speak for the vast majority of people but I can imagine there are a lot of people who are in the same position as me:"...play All The Small Things"- Here's a new song we've called Cock and Penis Jokes. Hope you like it."ALL THE SMALL THINGS"- *starts playing song*"What the f**k are you doing? ALL THE SMALL THINGS!"Then it becomes like this:"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wghennessy Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Seems my point about fans feeling compelled to give lists of songs was correct. At the end of the day, I've never heard of any of these songs. I don't speak for the vast majority of people but I can imagine there are a lot of people who are in the same position as me:"...play All The Small Things"- Here's a new song we've called Cock and Penis Jokes. Hope you like it."ALL THE SMALL THINGS"- *starts playing song*"What the f**k are you doing? ALL THE SMALL THINGS!"Then it becomes like this:"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr!s Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 A dream setlist (off top of my head)no particular orderDumpweed, Aliens Exist, Going Away to College, Whats My Age Again, Dysentary Gary, All The Small Things, Wendy Clear, Adams Song, Anthem Part 2, Reckless Abandoned, Please Take Me Home, Rock Show, First Date, Stay Together for the Kids, Mutt, Pathetic, Dammit, Apple Shampoo, Josie, Carousel, Man Overboard, M+Ms, Feeling This, Go, Not Now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy. Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 I registered just to say alot of my friends are mainly interested in seeing blink and there will be alot more fans there then some seem to think! The set will probably comprimise of mainly a greatest hits, likely to end with carousel and dammit and open with feeling this or dumpweed. The rest you can bet to see whats my age again, all the small things, rock show, first date, i miss you, obvious or stockholm syndrome, possibly adams song but possibly not because of DJAM's death. They may throw in a few suprises like f**k a dog just as its a festival and maybe M+Ms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave The Hedgehog Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Oh and if you are going to be sat at your campsite then go and do it because the majority will be watching Blink. - from what I've read and heard in conversation outside of this message board, I won't be in the minority. Like I've said: most people will go to see Blink 182 out of necessity purely because there doesn't seem to be that much on the Saturday night (at Leeds), and unless the smaller tents are jam packed full of the greatest bands on the planet, the camp sites will be packed. I know about 3 Guns and Roses songs - to compare Guns N Roses to Blink 182 is... well, it's just ridiculous, isn't it? Your aspirations are hopeless. Commercially and critically, they're two bands from two different spectrums of music who attract two different types of fans - knowing 3 of their songs considering how many great songs they've written and made is ignorance, frankly. But yeah, I'll be spending my time at the camp site. I don't have time to see a band like Blink 182 - waste of space. A much better band could have been put in their place - they were irrelevant 10 or 15 years ago, and they're irrelevant now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Oh and if you are going to be sat at your campsite then go and do it because the majority will be watching Blink. - from what I've read and heard in conversation outside of this message board, I won't be in the minority. Like I've said: most people will go to see Blink 182 out of necessity purely because there doesn't seem to be that much on the Saturday night (at Leeds), and unless the smaller tents are jam packed full of the greatest bands on the planet, the camp sites will be packed. I know about 3 Guns and Roses songs - to compare Guns N Roses to Blink 182 is... well, it's just ridiculous, isn't it? Your aspirations are hopeless. Commercially and critically, they're two bands from two different spectrums of music who attract two different types of fans - knowing 3 of their songs considering how many great songs they've written and made is ignorance, frankly. But yeah, I'll be spending my time at the camp site. I don't have time to see a band like Blink 182 - waste of space. A much better band could have been put in their place - they were irrelevant 10 or 15 years ago, and they're irrelevant now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave The Hedgehog Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 youre going to leeds? thank god for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j...rox Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Yeah I think i might watch Guns if it was to finish, as it is I want to see the finale of LCD as a great way to kick off the weekend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riizch Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 All of these arguments are so pathetic that I seriously don't know whether to laugh or cry sometimes. Seriously...which single person has the profound right to determine the credibility, popularity or worth of a band or musician based purely on their own musical preference?? Music is a form of entertainment - a demonstration of creativity which serves as both a form of expression for the artists and a source of entertainment and enjoyment for those who appreciate it. If writing a song serves only as a form of catharticism for its creators, then it has still succeeded in it's primary purpose. If just ONE person appreciates it, then it has a credible level of worth. Whatever you might think about Blink 182, Guns N' Roses or any other band/artist for that matter, how can ANYONE dismiss the worth of any band on that bill when every single one of them has written music, which has been mass-produced, sold and shared at a commercial level? To call Blink 182 a waste of time or undeserving of a headlining spot is sheer ignorance. They have outlasted and outsold the majority of bands on the bill. They are known the world over, even if it is primarily for a handfull of songs, and that in itself is a testament to their success. To argue otherwise would be ignorant, pretentious and disingenuous at best. You wouldn't argue that a football team that has won the league has been less successful or less deserving of the title than a team that finished mid-table, just because you don't support them, so why the hell should such a ridiculous contention be viable in terms of music industry success? IF you want to voice a negative opinion, then by all means do, but don't go trying to argue that your opinion is right or holds more weight than that of any other individual, because that is nothing but a load of self-righteous bullshit.And the one thing that pisses me off most, are the people who will judge an entire lineup based on how many bands meet their own approval. This is a music festival. Tens of thousands of people attend these and countless other music festivals every year. How self-righteous would you have to be to even entertain the idea that if the majority of the bands on the bill don't cater to your own particular tastes, then that festival, or that year's lineup is automatically rendered crap? Regardless of how many people are on these forums bitching and moaning about the likes of Blink 182 and Guns N' Roses, both bands are going to draw HUGE crowds and bring a lot of enjoyment to a hell of a lot of people, and even if you went and counted every single person in both the campsites and the mainstage audience, proving there to be more people sitting out than watching Blink 182, you still could never justify your opinion that Blink don't deserve to be there. Maybe there were thousands more Blink fans who would have been watching but were unable to get tickets. Just because they're not there, it doesn't mean that Blink are any less popular. If you went off of that theory, then it would mean that Smashing Pumpkins and Nine Inch Nails were also crap bands, as neither pulled particularly big crowds when they played Leeds a few years back. Would anyone seriously argue that to be the case? Just because you don't like them, it doesn't give you the right to judge their worth as a band and criticise the people who do like them. At the end of the day, FR are trying to organise a compromised event for a huge number of individuals from year to year. Nobody can have their own way every single time, so quit whining about it either take enjoyment from the bands that you actually do like, or sell your ticket and wait until next year when the lineup might suit your needs a bit better. I went to Leeds last year. I didn't watch a single headlining band because I didn't like any of them. In fact, there was only 3 or 4 bands on the entire bill that I particularly wanted to see, but I was never sounding off about how crap certain bands were, or how bad the lineup was, and you know why..? Because I have the intelligence and the common sense to appreciate that my opinions of the bands that played doesn't hold more weight than the collective opininos of the thousands and thousands of people who disagreed with me and thought that it was the best lineup for years.I'm sick of all these people whining. Do yourselves a favour, take your heads out of your own arses for long enough to gain a realistic perspective and stop trying to suggest that everything you say is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vieuphoria Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Just because they're not there, it doesn't mean that Blink are any less popular. If you went off of that theory, then it would mean that Smashing Pumpkins and Nine Inch Nails were also crap bands, as neither pulled particularly big crowds when they played Leeds a few years back. Would anyone seriously argue that to be the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budweiser Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Giving a list of songs I've never heard before only serves to prove my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budweiser Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Oh and if you are going to be sat at your campsite then go and do it because the majority will be watching Blink. - from what I've read and heard in conversation outside of this message board, I won't be in the minority. Like I've said: most people will go to see Blink 182 out of necessity purely because there doesn't seem to be that much on the Saturday night (at Leeds), and unless the smaller tents are jam packed full of the greatest bands on the planet, the camp sites will be packed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saskofreak Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 (edited) songs i want them to play:going away to collegeeasy targetreckless abandonmentdammitanthemanthem pt2muttstringsalwayswendy clearsongs they will probs play:i miss youall the small thingsalwaysfeeling thiswhats my age againfirst daterock showanthem pt2adams songstay together for the kidsdammiti think im being realistic. Edited June 6, 2010 by saskofreak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeDay Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 I'll be happy with anything off greatest hits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave The Hedgehog Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Last year in the 09 queue, there was several groups playing blink 182 songs and the whole crowd was singing to every song; and in that crowd there was about 3000 people - shows how much you know about popular music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave The Hedgehog Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Seriously...which single person has the profound right to determine the credibility, popularity or worth of a band or musician based purely on their own musical preference?? - People who listen to the same sort of music perhaps? Fans? Generally speaking you could almost guarantee that somebody with 'Dookie' has 'Enema of the State' alongside it - to me, that determines a certain amount of credibility in the harmless Pop Punk universe. To call Blink 182 a waste of time or undeserving of a headlining spot is sheer ignorance. They have outlasted and outsold the majority of bands on the bill. - Well, it isn't ignorance. It's an opinion. The fact is, Blink 182 have released next to nothing of any merit in close to 10 years - if Festival Republic are going to go to a band based on credibility AND record sales, as well as a band who DO deserve a "legendary" status and haven't done much for the last 10 years, they could easily turn to somebody like Soundgarden. Blink 182 are just a dusty nostalgia act for 20 to 25 year olds looking to relive the first moment they heard a penis joke. You wouldn't argue that a football team that has won the league has been less successful or less deserving of the title than a team that finished mid-table, just because you don't support them - Well, it would depend on what it took to get them there, wouldn't it? A team like Man Utd could be the most successful team in English football but they don't get my respect or my support purely because anybody could throw a billion pounds at a football team and expect them to shit gold. And 9 times out of 10 they will because the graveyard teams dying mid-table simply cannot compete - which makes it all the more better when they do and rip ten shades of shit out of them. Bad analogy.How self-righteous would you have to be to even entertain the idea that if the majority of the bands on the bill don't cater to your own particular tastes, then that festival, or that year's lineup is automatically rendered crap? - Personally I love the line-up. Granted I don't know anything about most of the bands but the glory of any festival is that you can go there and experience something new; and there's nothing better than the feeling you get when you feel as if you have discovered something nobody else has. The best festivals are the ones that do not cater to every taste. It offers variety, something for everybody - which is why you'll find me somewhere else whenever Blink 182 play, and likewise for somebody else whenever Guns N Roses play. You still could never justify your opinion that Blink don't deserve to be there. - Well, I could. To me, they're a band Festival Republic have shoved onto the stage because they lack the imagination to find somebody else better, far more popular and overall slightly more relevant. They seem awfully out of place if I'm honest. If you went off of that theory, then it would mean that Smashing Pumpkins and Nine Inch Nails were also crap bands, as neither pulled particularly big crowds when they played Leeds a few years back. Would anyone seriously argue that to be the case? - Well actually, I don't think anybody would because for the most part both of those bands are good. Nine Inch Nails in particular are exceptional. If you put them in place of Blink 182 then I think this year's festival would be nigh on perfect. Because I have the intelligence and the common sense to appreciate that my opinions of the bands that played doesn't hold more weight than the collective opininos of the thousands and thousands of people who disagreed with me and thought that it was the best lineup for years. - But it doesn't mean that what you said about the bands you hated was incorrect.The rest was just a diatribe and most of it didn't even make sense. So many words and so little said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budweiser Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Seriously...which single person has the profound right to determine the credibility, popularity or worth of a band or musician based purely on their own musical preference?? - People who listen to the same sort of music perhaps? Fans? Generally speaking you could almost guarantee that somebody with 'Dookie' has 'Enema of the State' alongside it - to me, that determines a certain amount of credibility in the harmless Pop Punk universe. To call Blink 182 a waste of time or undeserving of a headlining spot is sheer ignorance. They have outlasted and outsold the majority of bands on the bill. - Well, it isn't ignorance. It's an opinion. The fact is, Blink 182 have released next to nothing of any merit in close to 10 years - if Festival Republic are going to go to a band based on credibility AND record sales, as well as a band who DO deserve a "legendary" status and haven't done much for the last 10 years, they could easily turn to somebody like Soundgarden. Blink 182 are just a dusty nostalgia act for 20 to 25 year olds looking to relive the first moment they heard a penis joke. You wouldn't argue that a football team that has won the league has been less successful or less deserving of the title than a team that finished mid-table, just because you don't support them - Well, it would depend on what it took to get them there, wouldn't it? A team like Man Utd could be the most successful team in English football but they don't get my respect or my support purely because anybody could throw a billion pounds at a football team and expect them to shit gold. And 9 times out of 10 they will because the graveyard teams dying mid-table simply cannot compete - which makes it all the more better when they do and rip ten shades of shit out of them. Bad analogy.How self-righteous would you have to be to even entertain the idea that if the majority of the bands on the bill don't cater to your own particular tastes, then that festival, or that year's lineup is automatically rendered crap? - Personally I love the line-up. Granted I don't know anything about most of the bands but the glory of any festival is that you can go there and experience something new; and there's nothing better than the feeling you get when you feel as if you have discovered something nobody else has. The best festivals are the ones that do not cater to every taste. It offers variety, something for everybody - which is why you'll find me somewhere else whenever Blink 182 play, and likewise for somebody else whenever Guns N Roses play. You still could never justify your opinion that Blink don't deserve to be there. - Well, I could. To me, they're a band Festival Republic have shoved onto the stage because they lack the imagination to find somebody else better, far more popular and overall slightly more relevant. They seem awfully out of place if I'm honest. If you went off of that theory, then it would mean that Smashing Pumpkins and Nine Inch Nails were also crap bands, as neither pulled particularly big crowds when they played Leeds a few years back. Would anyone seriously argue that to be the case? - Well actually, I don't think anybody would because for the most part both of those bands are good. Nine Inch Nails in particular are exceptional. If you put them in place of Blink 182 then I think this year's festival would be nigh on perfect. Because I have the intelligence and the common sense to appreciate that my opinions of the bands that played doesn't hold more weight than the collective opininos of the thousands and thousands of people who disagreed with me and thought that it was the best lineup for years. - But it doesn't mean that what you said about the bands you hated was incorrect.The rest was just a diatribe and most of it didn't even make sense. So many words and so little said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budweiser Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 in music. That's subjective. Secondly, I didn't see the 'event' you're talking about and I certainly haven't heard stories of it happening so I'm not prepared to sit and trust what you say to be 100% accurate and true. I'll take it with a pinch of salt. Besides the point; by your reasoning, I could put on Beyonce and another 3,000 chavs would attempt to sing along to every word - does she warrant a headlining spot? Of course not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave The Hedgehog Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Learn how to quote aswell. I can't be assed to even read that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave The Hedgehog Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Yeah, but the group in the queue were all kind of social class. Not everyone who goes to Reading is a "chav". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1234 Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 (edited) Besides the point; by your reasoning, I could put on Beyonce and another 3,000 chavs would attempt to sing along to every word - does she warrant a headlining spot? Of course not. Edited June 6, 2010 by adam1234 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 To be fair I think if people get annoyed with him saying that hardly any people know many of their songs they are being a little overprotective of their favourite band. If a few years back people had rightly said about pixies that hardly anyone knows their songs, I would have responded your right but I do know them, and the less people that do all the easier to get to the front.Im probably in the middle here, I dont agree that blink only have 1 song but when I see lists of 8-9 songs that its suggested your average festival goer will know I disagree. I agree they are a big band and deserve to headline with the options available. However I disagree with some people who seem to think they are a massvie band like foo fighters and green day when they clearly are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave The Hedgehog Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Im probably in the middle here, I dont agree that blink only have 1 song but when I see lists of 8-9 songs that its suggested your average festival goer will know I disagree. I agree they are a big band and deserve to headline with the options available. However I disagree with some people who seem to think they are a massvie band like foo fighters and green day when they clearly are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budweiser Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Didn't say they were. I said that I could get 3,000 chavs, put on Beyonce and they'd all attempt to sing along. It doesn't mean Beyonce warrants a headlining spot just because those 3,000 chavs all sing along to her music. Ok, so you wouldn't mind if Jay Z headlined instead of Blink 182? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave The Hedgehog Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Yes and that's 1 opinion out of 80,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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