ID Ticket Checks

[ukslim]

As for this encouraging touts, i'm sorry but it just won't in any way to my mind. Even if word does get out that tickets aren't being rigorously checked do you really think any tout's going to go to the trouble of getting hundreds of people to register on their behalf THEN have to have the stress of trying to sell on a load of tickets with other people's photos on with no guarantee of entry? It just wouldn't be viable for them and far more hastle than it's worth.

[BuriedBones]

Oh well that's OK then. People should certainly risk losing their paltry part time bar job, so that a stranger can get away with fraud.

[old fence jumper]

i have been offered a spare ticket for glasto as someone i know cant go and cannot get a refund, and was wondering if it is worth risking it with the photo ID?

do they check the photo? or just tear off the stub?

is it worth the risk?

[Lilmiz]

I definately agree with those who have said it depends on who checks your ticket, on my first year a friend of one of the chaps i went with got in on another persons ticket and he didn't look anything like the person (this was 07 though with the not so fantastic photos) but last year they asked my boyf to take his sunhat and glasses off to have a good look at person against photo......i was allowed through with hat and glasses on.....although i do have a very distinctive mane of curly hair!! I personally wouldn't risk it, i know i would get ooooooh soooooo excited and would be gutted to not get in.....although on the other hand i haven't considered what i would do if i couldn't get a ticket!

[Madyokel]

Must admit the folks checking tickets near last years W26 where very thorough.

I had my ticket in the little guide holder set with the UV?holo set in easy view and was asked every time for ticket in full view..

This yeas Daughter is 13 and has a full ticket.. Could not do with a 500 mile round trip disaster.

No rain this year

[PabloCoke]

I have to hold my hand up here as I don't enter via the normal gates but when I was taking some stuff from the car in the staff carpark I got the impression there was two people checking each ticket.

if I switch it to something I do know about - say I was working in the bar and a underage teenager came up and showed a fake id and tried to slip me £ 20 for me to turn a blind eye I know exactly what I would do.

I would get Security to grab him and he would be reported to Police.

Crews at Glastonbury are not going to risk their jobs { unpaid or not } so its not a very good idea to offer a bribe.

[glasto-worker]

calling the police on a minor who was just trying to get a pint is amazingly harsh. getting the police involved in such a minor thing is also a terrible waste of police time.

As long as you never accepted a bribe there is no way on earth that you ever be prosecuted for it, that would be unprecedented.

[farewellandgoodnight]

Is this your legal opinion ?

Any underage can come to a bar and ask for a drink but if they use fake ID they have now committed a criminal offence and if the bar staff does nothing they have broken the law.

Edited June 9, 2010 by farewellandgoodnight

[jameshunt]

By the way Glasto-worker. Do you know which bar you'll be working this festival?

[farewellandgoodnight]

By the way Glasto-worker. Do you know which bar you'll be working this festival?

Edited June 9, 2010 by farewellandgoodnight

[Savy]

All these replies and not one response from the original poster? Show a bit of gratitude mate or people won't bother next time :angry:

[farewellandgoodnight]

All these replies and not one response from the original poster? Show a bit of gratitude mate or people won't bother next time :angry:

Edited June 9, 2010 by farewellandgoodnight

[jameshunt]

..........so we can avoid it. I look quite young for my age and wouldn't like to end up on the gallows when trying to buy a pint.

[PabloCoke]

first glasto-worker came for the underage drinkers, but i wasn't an underage drinker so I said nothing, next glasto-worker came for?

hehe

[farewellandgoodnight]

I don't have that problem, or blessing, myself but would like to avoid the bar with the grumpy guy looking to to do the police's job for them. I agree with all the common sense people on here that a bar worker should not serve an underage person as they are then breaking the law themselves. But I would expect a polite and firm "No" to suffice in that case. Stewards to be brought in only if said underage person won't take "No" for an answer.

Edited June 9, 2010 by farewellandgoodnight

[BuriedBones]

so your a expert on the act are you - you don't have a clue what local authorities gets up to and I have seen mystery shoppers { set up with trading standards } walking about with fake ID and I have seen them at every event we work at each year.

So does that mean you would be willing to accept bribes ?

so you don't mind taking the risk - well you do the job and see how you get on.

Anyone trying to offer a bribe in any situation has to be prepared for the consequences.

[glasto-worker]

No they haven’t!

There’s nothing in law that makes it an offence to not report a trivial crime. Bloody hell they can't even FORCE people to testify in murder trials these days. As long as you’re not complicit in said transgression you’re fine. So as long as you tell the person they’re not getting served and confiscate said id if possible everything’s okay.

There’s not an employer or authority in the land that will give you grief for failing to detain somebody for using a fake id. Again it’s ridiculously harsh to have somebody who’s 16 or 17 arrested and thrown out of Glastonbury for trying to use a fake id to buy a pint at the bar.

You totally have the power to use a bit of common sense in this kind of situation and it’s perfectly sufficient just to say no and leave it at that.

[farewellandgoodnight]

by the way please point out at what point did I use the words get a ' 16 or 17 arrested and thrown out of Glastonbury for trying to use a fake id to buy a pint at the bar. ' these are your words not mine.

Edited June 9, 2010 by farewellandgoodnight

[PabloCoke]

The Licensing Act of 2003 was amended and it makes staff personally liable and we can face criminal proscution if we fail to do our job and not check ID if a person appears to be under age.

by the way please point out at what point did I use the words get a ' 16 or 17 arrested and thrown out of Glastonbury for trying to use a fake id to buy a pint at the bar. ' these are your words not mine.

it is illegal to use a fake ID card fraudulently - if a person does not want to end up being interviewed by Security or Police then they have the choice not to use the fake ID in the first place.

As to what happens after that is not my concern - The staff cant disregard the law just because its Glastonbury.

If you don't agree with the law then stand as a MP and get the act changed.

At ever event we have to sign a contract that we are fully aware about the act and if we refuse to sign it then we will not be asked to work again.

[farewellandgoodnight]

sorry to say this but you are a totalitarian governments wet dream of a worker.

common sense is all thats needed, no ID no drinks, getting security or the police is just over the top jobsworh action.

[Savy]

I take bribes, positively encourage under-age drinking and would let anyone in with their ticket printed on a cream crakcer as long as it made me look cool

[Peaceman]

Cobblers! The licence issues were to do with over crowding and that's got nothing to do with this situation. The council licencing authority couldn't give a toss about tickets changing hands.

[ste]

All these replies and not one response from the original poster? Show a bit of gratitude mate or people won't bother next time :angry:

[glasto-worker]

Silly me!

[PabloCoke]

you tried to leave out the whole sentence which was -

if I switch it to something I do know about - say I was working in the bar and a underage teenager came up and showed a fake id and tried to slip me £ 20 for me to turn a blind eye I know exactly what I would do.

I would get Security to grab him and he would be reported to Police.

if you cant work out why that is different from someone just showing fake id and not offering a bribe then that is your problem not mine.

You appear to think that someone offering a bribe is not important well I am sure the Police would look at it in a different matter.

Mendip Council would go nuts if they thought it was so easy to bribe staff either at the gate or the bar.

Normally if a person hands over fake id and they spot us checking it using UV Light or comparison with a real PASS Card they will vanish from the bar before we have time to do a full check.

Staff have to follow the procedures and if they don't they will not be asked back.

At the end of the day anyone offering a bribe will have to face the consequences

Edited June 9, 2010 by PabloCoke