scottish fitba'

[ampersand]

Just LOL

[rexclark]

Just LOL

[Snufflebutt]

I completely disagree with what they are proposing there - since it is against everything a league system should be about- most particuarly, consistently good results being rewarded with success (the difference between the OF and the rest). But its heartening to see them trying to make a ten team league more attractive to the fans - as has been pointed out by the spl marketing guy (and me!) anything more than 12 teams will result in less money.

What a playoff like the one proposed would do though is provide potentially 6 old firm matches - something that would make the entire league seem far more attractive to sky. Its good to see them thinking outside the box though.

[ampersand]

6 celtic and rangers games a season? that would be awful.

[Snufflebutt]

6 celtic and rangers games a season? that would be awful.

[ampersand]

Could not agree more. But its the main reason why Sky are stumping up the money for a TV deal. Give it a few years, and the sequence of dire OF games will surely continue, and theyl change their tune. Hearts against either one of the ugly sisters has been generally better the last few years IMO.

[ampersand]

celtic lolz. my dad wants lennon sacked. who says celtic fans are fickle?

*edit* though to be fair, he's never rated him or wanted him.

Edited December 21, 2010 by ampersand

[beLIEveR]

Hats off to Cali Thistle for their away record. All the more amazing considering that even Watford can afford to poach their players, and that Inverness is every single SPL side's longest away trip bar one.

[ampersand]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz1kmGKDuUE

Edited December 26, 2010 by ampersand

[rexclark]

Well we're well and truelly f**ked. If we don't buy well in January I can't see anyway back for us. We don't deserve to be in the SPL. Billy Reid has lost the plot, completely. The signings he made in the summer have all been pish, he's got players playing out of position all over the place and he still seems to think one up front is a good idea even though we've only scored 11 goals this season. Billy Reid needs a boot up the arse, he's probably got the safest job in the SPL but it's about time the chairman steps in and tells him he's making a f**king joke of our team and all the hard work he's done is coming undone rapidly as if we keep going this way we'll be down within the next two months.

Next game up is against Motherwell on New Years Day and with them bringing in Stuart McCall being in place as their manager I can't see past a Motherwell win. I was thinking of going to this game but with the ammount of money it'll cost me I might just spend my cash down the pub instead. Guess we'll see how my hangover is.

[ampersand]

Well we're well and truelly f**ked. If we don't buy well in January I can't see anyway back for us.

[OneLittleFish]

I think it's us vs Hamilton for SPL survival this season. I think it'll be closer than most other Hibs fans seem to think, the board have to go. So many managers, so many good players lost, the club's in a bad way.

[rexclark]

I think it's us vs Hamilton for SPL survival this season. I think it'll be closer than most other Hibs fans seem to think, the board have to go. So many managers, so many good players lost, the club's in a bad way.

[minute5072]

GAME ON!

[Kowalski]

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/sport/Huge-majority-of-fans-oppose.6677232.jp

AN OVERWHELMING 88 per cent of football fans oppose the proposed reduction of the premier league to ten teams, with a staggering 92.5 per cent angry that supporters have not been adequately consulted on the revamp.

With the 12 SPL clubs due to meet this week to vote on the idea of forming two top leagues of ten in a bid to cut the financial gap between the elite sides and most ambitious clubs in the current First Division, fans, managers and players are disgruntled that, once again, their views have not been taken into consideration, with all three groups vehemently opposed to the structure which is currently favoured by the club chairmen.

More than three quarters of nearly 5,000 fans who took part in an online survey, commissioned by Supporters Direct Scotland from 17-22 December, opted for a league of either 16 or 18 teams, with the strength of opinion pretty consistent between those who support the current Scottish Premier League sides and those who back teams in the Scottish Football League.

"It is critical that the paying fan's voice is heard in the current debate," said Supporters Direct Scotland development manager James Proctor.

"These results show that while supporters welcome some of the changes proposed - play-offs between the top two leagues, a winter break and an earlier start to the season - the clear message from this survey is that supporters want leagues to be made larger, not smaller, and that they want to be consulted about the decisions that affect the future of football in Scotland.

"While the issue of league reconstruction is uppermost in people's minds, we should remember that Henry McLeish's report clearly called for greater involvement of fans in the national organisation and for fans to be represented in the important decisions in Scottish football.

"The results of the fans' survey back these recommendations and we look forward to working with the football authorities to ensure they are achieved."

Adding credence to the fans' stance are the chairman of the Scottish League Managers' Association, Alex Smith, and his counterpart at the Professional Footballers' Association Scotland, Jack Ross.

They claimed that their members are also unhappy at both the proposed size of the top flight and the lack of dialogue, and they say they would support moves for a working group which would include representatives from all areas of the game, including the supporters.

The survey was promoted via online forums, club websites and various media outlets.

In all there were 4,931 respondents and the results were independently analysed to ensure the validity of the data.

The SPL refused to comment on the findings of the survey.

[Snufflebutt]

Good.

[rexclark]

There are two representatives from Accies meeting with folk from the SPL to discuss reconstruction, now I'm surte it's a load of pie in the sky and purely to pacate the fans but hopefully they'll pay some attention. I think at worst things will stay the same, I really can't see a 10 team league.

[minute5072]

Yaaaaaaas!

[Kowalski]

I'm sure the fans also want their clubs to sign Lionel Messi, but its a pipe dream ike a 16 or 18 team league. The only discussions happening are deciding between a 10, 12 or 14 team league.

[theampersanddevil]

Trouble is, it is the fans who are paying the money (and tuning into the tv) and a 10 team league is boring. It is possible to play the same team 6 times in a season, that can't be good.

Edited January 2, 2011 by theampersanddevil

[Snufflebutt]

So the fans should be ignored? Jesus Christ.

[Paul ™]

Scottish Premier League clubs head for 10-team set-up

[Snufflebutt]

Trouble is, it is the fans who are paying the money (and tuning into the tv) and a 10 team league is boring. It is possible to play the same team 6 times in a season, that can't be good.

[Kowalski]

Scottish Premier League clubs head for 10-team set-up

[ampersand]

Fans ignored as usual.

It does seem they want to drive as many fans away from Scottish football as possible.