Pogues Mcgogues Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 It's so f**king horrible that employers can try to seriously f**k up someones employment chances in an attempt to keep face and cover their arses! Disgusting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 It's so f**king horrible that employers can try to seriously f**k up someones employment chances in an attempt to keep face and cover their arses! Disgusting! Yep, but no doubt if you were an employer you'd do the same. While I'm 100% behind the laws that tie their hands in what they're able or not to do to employees, there's always a flip side in that it requires employers to cover their arses for their own sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greeny_Musicchild Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 I feel for you Lithium. I had a horrible job saga where they tried to dismiss me 3 or 4 months back. people are here were really helpful in the end. Anyway, what i did was go down the grievance procedure first and foremost. If you have actually been hard done to (and it sounds like you have) then it's the best place to start. They will put a hold on all disciplinary proceedings whilst this happens and at the very least you'll have some time to find another job. That's what I did and it worked, the company admitted fault, my manager had to apologise, i got a bunch of written apologies, they retracted about half of what was said and i got 4 days off paid suspension with no consequence. Thing is, if that works then do you really want to stay there. I didn't. I have a new job now and it just feels so much better to not be in that shit hole anymore. The atmosphere changed, suddenly the managers who didn't know me knew me as the guy who beat them and treated me like scum. I would do anything you can to keep hold of the job for as long as possible but from the sounds of it mate you need to get out. Your posts certainly don't read like those of a happy, fulfilled man. Do what you need to do money wise but get out asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jump Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 I had my preformance review last week and it occurred to me that if Lithium has any previous reviews with good comments/remarks etc. make copies of them now as it may be helpfull later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markeee Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 dont you get to have someone with you during a disciplinary to act as a witness, if you're allowed someone there..make sure you do! hope things get sorted out mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lithium05 Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 Sacked. My immediate feeling is actually relief, like a huge weight has been lifted, still.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 What was the official reason ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed209 Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 (edited) Sacked. My immediate feeling is actually relief, like a huge weight has been lifted, still.... Edited August 12, 2010 by Ed209 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feral chile Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 Yes. What a lousy employer. At least you won't have them bringing you down any more. Time to look forward to better things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pogues Mcgogues Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 Still fight it though, or others will suffer. (not to get your job back per se, but to get them f**ked) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lithium05 Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 What was the official reason ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pogues Mcgogues Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 Apparently they felt it was unfair for me to continue at the job under so much pressure and it would be better for me in the long run to look for employment elsewhere. A colleague has sided with me (she accompanied me to the meeting) and has already spoken to a lawyer about the apparent "constructive dismissal" on the part of the company as she has proof that we were being unfairly treated compared to the people who are being given enough work to meet their targets. She is convinced that she will be given the boot in the next few weeks and that our job is about to be outsourced to Vietnam (there is ALOT of evidence pointing to this) Am sorting out my own legal help, have a number to call for a "no win no fee" employment lawyer, so hopefully I have a case, but for now I'm just gonna try and sort out going back to my old job at a theatre bar to keep the monies coming in and look for something better somewhere down the line. Trouble is i've got nowt in the way of qualifications, and I have no idea what I would be happy doing as a career at 25. All things I need to consider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 Apparently they felt it was unfair for me to continue at the job under so much pressure and it would be better for me in the long run to look for employment elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 Did you not join the Trade Union? They'll provide you with legal representation for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pogues Mcgogues Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 You said this last time and we found out last time the union wasn't interested or have you got a very short memory... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 If I remember correctly it turned out you were wrong, and it was for a totally different person who worked in a totally different type of employment. Anyway, I'm not asking you I'm asking lithium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 I would deal with the no win no fee guys if you are more interested in kicking their arses rather than compo... Apparently you are meant to get all the compo but I have read there are still tricks they can pull to reduce the amount you get... Good luck... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jump Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 Ouch, sounds like complete bullshit but anyway time to move on. I'd suggest you sign onto the dole asap as they don't back date money and jump straight into looking for some work/meeting as many recruitment agencies as you can now as you don't want to be stuck at home over thinking things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 (edited) Ouch, sounds like complete bullshit but anyway time to move on. I'd suggest you sign onto the dole asap as they don't back date money and jump straight into looking for some work/meeting as many recruitment agencies as you can now as you don't want to be stuck at home over thinking things. Edited August 13, 2010 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jump Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 (edited) Am I not right in thinking that depending on the reason he was sacked claiming job seekers may not be straight forward ? Don't they apply a sanction for up to 26 weeks ? Edited August 13, 2010 by jump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABun Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 He won't be online for hours yet - he'll still be lying in bed believing his brain is hammering to get out of his head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jump Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 He won't be online for hours yet - he'll still be lying in bed believing his brain is hammering to get out of his head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampersand Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 (edited) dont you get to have someone with you during a disciplinary to act as a witness, if you're allowed someone there..make sure you do! hope things get sorted out mate Edited August 13, 2010 by ampersand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markeee Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 there's rules and regs in place with regards to sacking someone don't you have to get a warning, 2nd warning, formal etc? deff fight it mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t8yman Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Going on what I have gleaned from your postings, you have a cast iron case lith. They appear to have been very very foolish if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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