Comic Books

[Rufus Gwertigan]

Id love to read some of the stuff Ennis did on Dredd set in Ireland. Heard its a right hoot but sounds v weird.

There are some novels of the "Emerald Isle". Brilliant bit of Ennis especially his background. It was quite funny, and it is is hard to read it alongside say "Preacher" to think it is the same writer.

As to Dredd I am old fashioned and John Wagner and Pat Mills do it for me.

[Wooderson]

Just getting tucked into "From Hell". Riveting stuff. One wonders did reading Watchmen feel like this the first time round? Hmmm

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I was on the train this morning and there was some fat old dude with a weird tash was reading this black and white porno comic.

What was stange was he though it was completely normal and just standing there reading it like a newspaper.

[G-Stud]

I was on the train this morning and there was some fat old dude with a weird tash was reading this black and white porno comic.

What was stange was he though it was completely normal and just standing there reading it like a newspaper.

Classy bugger.

In cleaner news - Incognito is another book worth checking out

[Wooderson]

The last Scott Pilgrim book is pants - but the movie is a triumph. LOVED. IT.

[nightcrawler13]

loved the Scott Pilgrim film

they are filming part of Captain America in Manchester, and i've applied to be an extra!!! :D

it does mean i'll have to cut off my hair, but i'd cut off a finger to be in a Marvel movie

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http://uk.tv.ign.com/articles/111/1117682p1.html

Ooh, they are finally gonna adapt Sandman. I'm surprised they didn't try this early when the Crow hit it big or all the other comic book movies were going.

[radish]

http://uk.tv.ign.com/articles/111/1117682p1.html

Ooh, they are finally gonna adapt Sandman. I'm surprised they didn't try this early when the Crow hit it big or all the other comic book movies were going.

Hmm. Unfortunately I just can't see this being done right. If it's not messed with, the multiple plot lines, the complexity, the bizarre, the gruesome, the macabre, the questionable and everything else is left in then maybe it'll be ok. But I just can't see a major studio allowing amongst others characters like the Corinthian or Lucifer or Cane and Abel to appear on prime time telly, it'll be dampened down to make it more acceptable and less frightening for the kiddies. Hell, the first book starts with a nazi satanist black magik type capturing Dream, hardly the kind of characters that'll be on telly before midnight and hence not a big ratings winner. It'll be turned into a Pratchett parody, and while Good Omens was amazing (my favourite book) and shows stylistically the two writers have common ground, and is begging to be made into a film, and while the Pratchett telly adaptations I've seen have captured the Discworld feel nicely enough, I just don't think this would fit with the Endless.

Sandman should be terrifying, fantastic, mind-boggling, disturbing, warped, funny, heart-breaking, thought-provoking and bloody expensive to make, just like the comics (except for the expensive bit I think), but I fear Warner Bros will tone it down and turn it into a bloody kids cartoon or something.

Grump. :angry:

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Hmm. Unfortunately I just can't see this being done right. If it's not messed with, the multiple plot lines, the complexity, the bizarre, the gruesome, the macabre, the questionable and everything else is left in then maybe it'll be ok. But I just can't see a major studio allowing amongst others characters like the Corinthian or Lucifer or Cane and Abel to appear on prime time telly, it'll be dampened down to make it more acceptable and less frightening for the kiddies. Hell, the first book starts with a nazi satanist black magik type capturing Dream, hardly the kind of characters that'll be on telly before midnight and hence not a big ratings winner. It'll be turned into a Pratchett parody, and while Good Omens was amazing (my favourite book) and shows stylistically the two writers have common ground, and is begging to be made into a film, and while the Pratchett telly adaptations I've seen have captured the Discworld feel nicely enough, I just don't think this would fit with the Endless.

Sandman should be terrifying, fantastic, mind-boggling, disturbing, warped, funny, heart-breaking, thought-provoking and bloody expensive to make, just like the comics (except for the expensive bit I think), but I fear Warner Bros will tone it down and turn it into a bloody kids cartoon or something.

Grump. :angry:

I'm not sure, The Walking Dead looks like it's shaping up nicely and with Sandman there's a feirce respect for it due to Gaiman's rep and if he doesn't get involved (that's why the movie never got going) it won't get made and with him involed it may get tinkered with but kept to true to the source and although it was a while ago it was outselling Superman so there's hardcore audience the studio would have to try and please as I really doubt they would bother to make it on the Sandman name alone.

You did raise a good point that didn't occur to me about Kane, Abel and the other religous aspects and that may prove to be a sticking point to the studio trying to make it.

[radish]

I'm not sure, The Walking Dead looks like it's shaping up nicely and with Sandman there's a feirce respect for it due to Gaiman's rep and if he doesn't get involved (that's why the movie never got going) it won't get made and with him involed it may get tinkered with but kept to true to the source and although it was a while ago it was outselling Superman so there's hardcore audience the studio would have to try and please as I really doubt they would bother to make it on the Sandman name alone.

You did raise a good point that didn't occur to me about Kane, Abel and the other religous aspects and that may prove to be a sticking point to the studio trying to make it.

I think my underlying concern is that Warner Bros = shit. They took a fairly promising premise with Birds of Prey, at a time when Buffy and similar were riding high, and managed to screw it up completely, stripped it of pretty much everything that made the comic readable and created another clone tv show. Which is exactly what can't happen to the Sandman. I'd almost prefer to see something like a play-for-today type thing, forget expensive sets and cgi and go for conceptual television theatre, or at a push Neverwhere style BBC stuff. Oh well, at least if it does go ahead and it's utter bobbins I'll still be able to read the books, and if it's good then I get to be proved wrong but still win. Nice.

(Edited to say) And as for casting, there's a nightmare waiting to happen (pun almost intended). For me I'd want it to be a mix of a number of actors (not one per episode, the actor could change in a blink of an eye and back again) and some cgi creations, to reflect that Dream(s) are ever-changing and have many faces and aspects. Fat Bob would have to appear as Orpheus for 5 minutes at least, as would David Bowie and Christopher Walken. Not sure who should be Death though, tough call.

Edited September 2, 2010 by radish

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I think my underlying concern is that Warner Bros = shit. They took a fairly promising premise with Birds of Prey, at a time when Buffy and similar were riding high, and managed to screw it up completely, stripped it of pretty much everything that made the comic readable and created another clone tv show. Which is exactly what can't happen to the Sandman. I'd almost prefer to see something like a play-for-today type thing, forget expensive sets and cgi and go for conceptual television theatre, or at a push Neverwhere style BBC stuff. Oh well, at least if it does go ahead and it's utter bobbins I'll still be able to read the books, and if it's good then I get to be proved wrong but still win. Nice.

(Edited to say) And as for casting, there's a nightmare waiting to happen (pun almost intended). For me I'd want it to be a mix of a number of actors (not one per episode, the actor could change in a blink of an eye and back again) and some cgi creations, to reflect that Dream(s) are ever-changing and have many faces and aspects. Fat Bob would have to appear as Orpheus for 5 minutes at least, as would David Bowie and Christopher Walken. Not sure who should be Death though, tough call.

After seeing Scot Pilgrim I think Mary Elizabeth Winstead could pull Death off, just the right amount of warmth and detachment to her (although her voice would have to be softer at least in my head) but I think there's alreay a High Cost Of Living movie in the works by Gaiman himself. Destruction has to be Brian Blessed.

Speaking of Birds Of Prey, why did that get cancelled I thought it was doing well in the ratings?

Edited September 2, 2010 by jump

[Wooderson]

Destruction has to be Brian Blessed.

Seemed to my eyes at least that Destruction was based on Blessed.

Gordons alive etc.

[Wooderson]

Keen as mustard for this.

Dunno whether the words GM is saying are so profound that they require subtitles or cuz our US cousins can't understand him. Either way it looks like a proper GM freekout. A good thing. The man can do no wrong. Even his Dr. Who books were a hoot.

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Keen as mustard for this.

Dunno whether the words GM is saying are so profound that they require subtitles or cuz our US cousins can't understand him. Either way it looks like a proper GM freekout. A good thing. The man can do no wrong. Even his Dr. Who books were a hoot.

I wish people would say what's on the vid when they post them as I can't see them at work. I take it's something about Grant Morrison?

[Wooderson]

I wish people would say what's on the vid when they post them as I can't see them at work. I take it's something about Grant Morrison?

Its the Sequart GM documentary film yeah. Think its out in the States in the next few months. Theyre making one about Ellis aswell methinks.

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Keen as mustard for this.

Dunno whether the words GM is saying are so profound that they require subtitles or cuz our US cousins can't understand him. Either way it looks like a proper GM freekout. A good thing. The man can do no wrong. Even his Dr. Who books were a hoot.

Ok watched it now and the 1st thing I thought was "Why is Billy Connly doing a voice over?". I want to see it now but doubt I'll buy it though, hopefully it'll pop up on the biography channel at some point.

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Eh, could go into films or comic books but Hilary Duff is going to be in the Spiderman film as Gwen Stacey (MJ isn't going to be in it apparently) sounds horrible already.

[Purple Monkey]

Eh, could go into films or comic books but Hilary Duff is going to be in the Spiderman film as Gwen Stacey (MJ isn't going to be in it apparently) sounds horrible already.

Surely not.........

Good thing about MJ though.

I found it very odd that they switched MJ and Gwen in the films. MJ was the cute girl next door/high school sweetheart type and Gwen was the super-hot fashion model. Not for pretty much everyone that has ever read a Spider-Man comic, they're not!

Wonder if they will do the Captain Stacy story? Gwen loving Peter but loathing Spider-Man would be somewhat more interesting than the now-tired 'girl instantly falls for the man in tights but spends the rest of the movie ignoring the hero underneath until later on where the missus realises they're the same person' thing. That was Superman's sctick (as was running down the street ripping his shirt revealling his symbol of his costume underneath - couldn't believe they put that in a Spider-Man film). Spider-Man is not Superman, hopefully they'll understand this and make something a bit more post-modern and relevant like the Ultimate version did, without turning it into a comedy/farce/parody like Kick-Ass or Scott Pilgrim.

It may be safe to assume the Green Goblin won't be a Power Ranger on a diesel powerred hoverboard this time.

Edited September 8, 2010 by Purple Monkey

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Surely not.........

Good thing about MJ though.

I found it very odd that they switched MJ and Gwen in the films. MJ was the cute girl next door/high school sweetheart type and Gwen was the super-hot fashion model. Not for pretty much everyone that has ever read a Spider-Man comic, they're not!

Wonder if they will do the Captain Stacy story? Gwen loving Peter but loathing Spider-Man would be somewhat more interesting than the now-tired 'girl instantly falls for the man in tights but spends the rest of the movie ignoring the hero underneath until later on where the missus realises they're the same person' thing. That was Superman's sctick (as was running down the street ripping his shirt revealling his symbol of his costume underneath - couldn't believe they put that in a Spider-Man film). Spider-Man is not Superman, hopefully they'll understand this and make something a bit more post-modern and relevant like the Ultimate version did, without turning it into a comedy/farce/parody like Kick-Ass or Scott Pilgrim.

It may be safe to assume the Green Goblin won't be a Power Ranger on a diesel powerred hoverboard this time.

You'd be luckly, the producers have been inspired by the Twillight films for the direction it's gonna take

I do like the Gwen over MJ bit and I hope to see her plunge to her death and give his more dimension for the probable sequels, but just not with Hillary Duff.

[minute5072]

You'd be luckly, the producers have been inspired by the Twillight films for the direction it's gonna take

I do like the Gwen over MJ bit and I hope to see her plunge to her death and give his more dimension for the probable sequels, but just not with Hillary Duff.

Initially I heard they were going for the gritty "lets copy batman" style reboot but guessing this has been completely thrown out the window for the "lets make a pish film" approach....shiiiiiiiiite

[Purple Monkey]

Initially I heard they were going for the gritty "lets copy batman" style reboot but guessing this has been completely thrown out the window for the "lets make a pish film" approach....shiiiiiiiiite

This is what really, REALLY pisses me off with movie studios - they always need something to plagarise because they have no f**king imagination.

"It's <x> meets <y>. It'll sell millions!"

I hope the next Spidey film isn't anything like Twilight, I really do. I don't want the main character to be a horny 15 year old Gwen Stacy, torn between the catalog-model-handsome loner Spider-Man (his chin is so chiselled it cuts through his mask revealling his sparkling Spider-face, adding drama and shit) and the dashing-but-deadly Green Goblin (Harry Osborn, Norman not even mentioned, Norman is over 21 and therefore OMG eww!), who are forced into battling each other because the one that wins Gwens heart will get laid.

Edited September 11, 2010 by Purple Monkey

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The new Batman storyline sounds stupid to me, what's the point have having a Batman in every city wouldn't it cheapen the character, sounds like just another way to put out another dozen Bat-books a month.

[Wooderson]

The new Batman storyline sounds stupid to me, what's the point have having a Batman in every city wouldn't it cheapen the character, sounds like just another way to put out another dozen Bat-books a month.

Yep. Couldnt agree more.

On a similar vein I was quite enjoying the XMen vampire books. Dunno if youve read it but theres a VERY significant bit with Namor that takes place in a new "Namor" book appropos of nothing. I actually said "You f*ckers!" as I was reading it. Dreadful stuff.

The end of issue 3 of this vampires book is another - "Aaah FFS!" moment.

[minute5072]

Emma Stone for MJ in Spidey 4?...

Zack Snyder to direct new Superman film...Zod to be the villain?...

[Purple Monkey]

The new Batman storyline sounds stupid to me, what's the point have having a Batman in every city wouldn't it cheapen the character, sounds like just another way to put out another dozen Bat-books a month.

Comic book or film?

If it's comic I'm not surprised. The comics just seem to get more outlandish and more insane every year.