Young,Dumb and Living off Mum BBC3

[oafc0000]

If any of your kids have my level of musical "talent" you'll be begging them to not play.

Step away from the guitar

[oafc0000]

Losing the debate?? Oaf, really ...

I don't think the curriculum should allow the opting out of music, geography history and certainly not mathematics! Why would you think opting out of mathematics is something to consider. Its absurd!

I've made my point about music, it requires no further clarification. I just think its crazy that you are going to force our child daily to study music , or be forced to play a musical instrument. I assume by your reasoning regarding other subjects, that you will also force your child on a daily basis to practice mathematics, english, geography et al. I think art is very important ... all children enjoy it - try forcing your child to paint you a picture every day, see if they stick with that!

Most private schools require it for what reason?? Oh, and these experts you talk of ... reference it of GTFO.

Edited August 24, 2010 by oafc0000

[Pogues Mcgogues]

Ey up there Jobby... if we go down that route---you`ll have the H-Phobia Police out of the woodwork.

Mind--all that said--- if you did live with me, you would quickly lose your YDaLoM tag...and you`d get to stroke me fur,look for nits in me hair and check out a lump I`ve got just inside me bomb bay.

The Star is a paper I`ve never really took much interest in--but I gather its popular up your way as it gives decent racing tips and the ink doesnt come off too much when yer wipe yer arses wi it.

Come on Down Jobby... together we could re-write the prescription book with our joint income of £102 a week..

den

[philipsteak]

What's a YDaLoM tag?

[Pogues Mcgogues]

I'll give you a clue.

Look at the top of the screen.

[saratink]

Nah I mind having a laugh and drinking some home-made wine or something. I was quite away with it by the time I got there and was trying to compose myself. But yeah I remember good chat. Did not come in a group?

The only reason I mentioned that is cause it was one of the funniest bits of the weekend. I was staring at him and you said something and he stared at me as I started laughing, he must of thought I was just laughing at him.

[philipsteak]

Is it an advert? I scrolled up but could only see the efest logo and an ad for railcards....

[saratink]

Nope. Above that.

[Pogues Mcgogues]

Nope. Above that.

[philipsteak]

If it's computer lingo then I'm stumped! All I have is the address bar, tool bar, etc.

[saratink]

If it's computer lingo then I'm stumped! All I have is the address bar, tool bar, etc.

[Pogues Mcgogues]

I would try and blame it on being late but I'll just accept I'm an idiot!

[Ed209]

What's up fella... Losing the debate...

Should kids be able to opt out of doing history ? geography ? foreign languages ?

Given the evidence I would say music is up there with English, Science and Maths...

Most private schools require the children to learn an instrument for a reason.... Clearly they and most experts have it wrong, and you have it right...

[oafc0000]

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Can i just add that Music, like English, Maths, History, geography, Modern Laguages etc ... is in the national curriculum and a legal requirement for all children up to the age of 14 (i think?). So it is recognised, and children are required to take part (admittedly they don't have to learn an instrument).

I took piano lessons, did all the grades and then quit immediately afterwards as I was fed up of having it forced on me. I hated it at the time and it made me miserable having to get up and practice for half an hour each morning, but now I'm kinda grateful my parents put me through it. I've got grade 8 piano which is kinda cool. I've started taking lessons again for my own pleasure and i'm enjoying it a lot more than i ever did.

So I'm fairly mixed on this one. If i had a kid who didn't want to do it, I don't think I could bare putting them through what i had to do knowing how much they hated it. But I do think music is good for kids. bands/orchestras etc .. teach you loads of good skills, and sometimes kids don't know whats best for them. So i would definitely encourage it.

As for whether music is as important as English, Maths, Science etc then in terms of life prospects definitely not but art/music/drama are good for the soul and that's very important. I think a kid should be encouraged to to have an interest in one of those.

Edited August 25, 2010 by oafc0000

[philipsteak]

look at the title...

[Ed209]

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Kids life should be full of fun and enjoyment... but it also needs to be full of discipline , self control, education, structure and so on and that isn't always going to be fun...

Like you said, you thank them for it now...

Edited August 25, 2010 by Ed209

[oafc0000]

tbh I've already decided my kid's going to be drummer, and a f**kin Rockin one at that. They may be the butt of the jokes but there's little doubt they have the most awesome job in rock music.

Wish my parents had made me play the drums

edit: I should add I don't have a kid, but when i do ...

[gratedenini]

Eeeee lad, Jobby Jabber the Dole Waller not only are you YDaLoM...you are also proving yourself to be TAS

den

[Ed209]

I was taught the Tuba... I win on the loser stakes...

[oafc0000]

yup, i'm afraid you were the kid everyone laughed at.

[saratink]

I was taught the Tuba... I win on the loser stakes...

[saratink]

on the topic of this topic, i enrolled in college today

Edited August 25, 2010 by south wales sara !

[sifi]

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Kids life should be full of fun and enjoyment... but it also needs to be full of discipline , self control, education, structure and so on and that isn't always going to be fun...

Like you said, you thank them for it now...

[oafc0000]

He's a man, with a plan, got a counterfeit dollar in his hand ...

[Pogues Mcgogues]

Eeeee lad, Jobby Jabber the Dole Waller not only are you YDaLoM...you are also proving yourself to be TAS

den