X Factor 2010

[rexclark]

Its not like Biffy will meet these people at their shows or at signings/public appearances. Lets not presume everyone has the same tastes of music as most of the people on here, the general public mostly dont. X factor is for a certain market, I watched the final and when they went over to the crowds in the finalists home towns it was mostly young screaming girls, although I dont like some of the music they probably listen to it doesnt mean they shouldnt have it. I went to Manchester last month to see Gorillaz and the next day in Manchster city centre there was a signing at the HMV for The Wanted, screaming girls everywhere, it was hilarious, but not once did I think "Fools, they should be listening to Neil Young".

[OneLittleFish]

You know, I was kind of excited when 'Puzzle' started to get attention - it felt like the underground preparing to do battle with the bland mediocracy that made up Radio 1. A rock band with decent ideas getting some attention.

One album with seven singles later, it's changed. Irrelevant of how much or little say they had in it, Biffy are a band that gave up what made them good in order to shift records.

It's a phrase I don't like, but for once, 'sell outs' are the only words for them. f**k Biffy.

[ampersand]

You know, I was kind of excited when 'Puzzle' started to get attention - it felt like the underground preparing to do battle with the bland mediocracy that made up Radio 1. A rock band with decent ideas getting some attention.

One album with seven singles later, it's changed. Irrelevant of how much or little say they had in it, Biffy are a band that gave up what made them good in order to shift records.

It's a phrase I don't like, but for once, 'sell outs' are the only words for them. f**k Biffy.

[Snufflebutt]

I presume the people on here moaning about Biffy selling out know for certain they themselves wouldnt do it? They had 2 choices, play the same music (only moderately successfuk commercially) or add a few (very) catchy hooks and get their music out there. I'd say it shows that they are more talented - theres not many songwriters that can write both types of music.

Edited December 14, 2010 by Snufflebutt

[ampersand]

matts version has wa wa bits that sound like someone is taking the piss in guitar hero! it gets worse on second hearing!

[pink_triangle]

As I have said previously, Biffys debut album was pretty commercial sounding, just because it didn sell as many as the last two, doesn mean it was not designed too. In my opinion Biffy were never trying to be an underground band. They were always a band writing pop songs, just took a while for the public to notice.

[ampersand]

As I have said previously, Biffys debut album was pretty commercial sounding, just because it didn sell as many as the last two, doesn mean it was not designed too. In my opinion Biffy were never trying to be an underground band. They were always a band writing pop songs, just took a while for the public to notice.

[eFestivals]

just remembered ....

Did no one notice that Cher covered a Gary Glitter song? I'd have thought she'd have got slaughtered for doing that, but there's not been a peep.

OK, it's not a Glitter composition, but he had the biggest hit with it.

[windy_miller]

just remembered ....

Did no one notice that Cher covered a Gary Glitter song? I'd have thought she'd have got slaughtered for doing that, but there's not been a peep.

OK, it's not a Glitter composition, but he had the biggest hit with it.

[eFestivals]

I missed Saturday's show, what song was it?

the Clapping Song.

[windy_miller]

the Clapping Song.

[eFestivals]

Can't say I know it. Its an unfortunate song name for a Gary Glitter song though

Oh, i'm sure you'd know the song, even if you don't know that Glitter covered it.

3, 6, 9

The goose drank wine

The monkey chew tobacco on the streetcar line

The line broke, the monkey got choked

And they all went to heaven in a little rowboat

Clap pat - clap pat - clap pat - clap slap

Clap pat! clap your hand...

Pat it on your partner hand... right hand

Clap pat! clap your hand...

Cross it with your left arm

Pat your partner left palm

Clap pat! clap your hand...

Pat your partner right palm

And a right palm again

Clap slap! clap your hand...

Slap your thigh and sing a little song go...

My Mother told me

If I was goody

That she would buy me

A rubber dolly

My Auntie told her

I'd kissed a soldier

Now she won't buy me

A rubber dolly

[amfy]

I don't remember Gary Glitter doing that song. I remember the Belle Stars doing it, and someone else before that who wasn't Gary Glitter.

I quite like Matt as X-factor winners go, & I'm not a fan of Biffy in the general scheme of things, but I still have to say that Matt's version of that song does nothing for either him or the song. For me, Biffy's version is too recent for this to be anything other than pointless, even if it was better, which it isn't.

Hope he manages something more purposeful in future.

Still I do have a feeling that raging against commercialism by trying to get something else to the top of the charts has the faint ring of the old "fighting for peace is like f*@king for virgnity"

[ampersand]

Still I do have a feeling that raging against commercialism

[amfy]

I'm maybe just flooding one post with too many random thoughts.

No-one here particularly, although the anti-Cowell/pro-Wagner vote covered earlier on this thread is symptomatic of a similar syndrome. The other thread about getting another song to number one is definitely in this camp.

I think it's attaching too much importance to chart music tbh, and I think the people that want to buy something else in protest, are often the same people who start to hate a band when they've approximately 2.5 chart hits anyway because they've "sold out".

[rachbon]

just listened to both versions of the song, matt's is awful.

[Snufflebutt]

just listened to both versions of the song, matt's is awful.

[rexclark]

just listened to both versions of the song, matt's is awful.

[Ed209]

Well the video has just been released

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ebCImJ1xgo

Is that really the best they could come up with. Clips of him from xfactor with snippets of him playing a guitar... Congratulations to the video producer, it must have taken him all of 30 minutes to make that.

[ampersand]

Well the video has just been released

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ebCImJ1xgo

Is that really the best they could come up with. Clips of him from xfactor with snippets of him playing a guitar... Congratulations to the video producer, it must have taken him all of 30 minutes to make that.

[rachbon]

the videos are always like that. just x factor clips. pish.

[Ed209]

Just had a look through some of the past ones. So they are! Basically the same video, different song. They probably have an automated x factor music video generator to do it for them. total bullshit

[rexclark]

Just had a look through some of the past ones. So they are! Basically the same video, different song. They probably have an automated x factor music video generator to do it for them. total bullshit

Edited December 15, 2010 by rexclark

[OneLittleFish]

you prefer the demo of captain don't you? the one with no melody that goes f**king nowhere. but it's coolerz!

[Snufflebutt]

Heard it this morning on the radio, It really is awful.