"we're all in this together"

[5co77ie]

As Barry said, (EMA) educational maintenance allowances paid to over 90,000 youngsters over the age of 16 from low income families will be reformed. Education pundits reckon it'll spark a mass exodus of youths from colleges and sixth forms (onto the dole queues) if it is withdrawn.

[eFestivals]

My daughter will got to University regardless,

What, even if she's as thick as you?

Oh, you managed it tho didn't you? I guess the bump on the head you go on graduation day has something to do with things.

[5co77ie]

state pension age to rise to 66 by 2016, by a further two year increase the retirement age to 68 by 2038

Edited October 20, 2010 by 5co77ie

[sifi]

My daughter will got to University regardless, there will always be a way...

[jump]

Sports teaching special status for schools to be abolished - ahhh I remember there being no sports about when I were a lad.

Loss of approx £130,000 per mid sized school (schools with specialist sports status will lose the extra cash of £129 per pupil). Justified on the grounds of costs and because the Government wants to focus on academic disciplines such as literacy and numeracy. Looks like nanny state worries about kids getting unfit and fat are over.

Edited: added per pupil

[5co77ie]

Share price in Lloyds Banking Group and RBS falling perhaps in anticipation of a possible announcement on the government's plan for its stake in the two banks, currently at 40 and 80 per cent respectively.

[sifi]

When you want a job in the future Stifi come see my daughter,

[5co77ie]

I doubt I will live long enough to see the state pension...

[eFestivals]

That's exactly what he's been putting to you - pragmatism.

Really? Has he?

Then perhaps you'll be able to explain what's pragmatic about denying a generation all opportunity for higher education, as he said should be the case.

If you agree with them then not all they do is ideologically driven as you have a different ideology. This literally is pragmatism.

I might agree with them due to pragmatism.

Nothing about that gives any indication whatsoever as to whether what's driving their doings is ideological or pragmatic. Anyone with more than 2 brain cells should grasp that.

So as ever you're talking bollocks. But luckily for you, there's no gender issues here to expose your bollocks quite as well as you managed yesterday.

Pragmatic politics, which I've been banging on about here for years and you've disputed at every chance, is all about the end of ideology due to the net result of policy being all that counts. It's politics for the post-political age.

There is always a reason for doing anything.

Yet when policy is ideologically driven and the result of policy re-enforces that ideological position, it's always ideological.

There's nothing about what the tories are doing which is pragmatic - it's all ideologically based. Their constant lies about why we have a deficit and lack of action* against those who caused the deficit in favour of those lies makes that abundantly clear.

(* they have introduced a "bank levy" - yet the banks will pay less in tax after its introduction than they paid before, because of the cut in Corp Tax - so their claims of having taxed the banks is a smokescreen, and is 100% bullshit).

[sifi]

ouch....!

[RABun]

Starting to see yourself for the idiot you are ?

Instead of bleating and moaning try reading thread in full and try forming your own opinions. IF YOU DID, you wouldn't of got so much wrong above. Try reading more of the start of threads instead of entering a debate ten pages in when the usual suspects have already started their character assassination. You might actually get a more clear picture then.

YOU CLEARLY don't do enough reading... More reading less moaning says Barry Fish...

[5co77ie]

cuts to National Park funding expected to be announced.

[RABun]

So despite reading the threads you still got so much wrong ?

Anyway, back to the cuts...

[5co77ie]

deep cutbacks in government advertising and media planning.

Edited to add: Probably mainly all that advertising for join the armed forces.

Edited October 20, 2010 by 5co77ie

[5co77ie]

None of them effect me so far

[Paul ™]

Do I have to ask you for permission to post going forward

[sifi]

If only you were moderated...

[ampersand]

When you want a job in the future Stifi come see my daughter, so she can throw your CV in the bin

[Paul ™]

Oh, please - don't give him any more reason to play his over-used victim status card. As dreary, misguided and deluded his posts about the spending cuts are, they aren't as bad as his belief that everyone on the forum hates him.

[ampersand]

Maybe I have no grasp of humour but I thought what I wrote to Stifi was funny... I don't think the two responses were very funny...

[Paul ™]

you thought it was funny, but deep down, you believe thats going to be the case. and i think you believe that to be the case cos you have money. as neil says, what if she is thick? are you still going to mould her into the child that you believe she should be? what if she wants to have a family at a young age and not do the whole uni thing?

[RABun]

you thought it was funny, but deep down, you believe thats going to be the case. and i think you believe that to be the case cos you have money. as neil says, what if she is thick? are you still going to mould her into the child that you believe she should be? what if she wants to have a family at a young age and not do the whole uni thing?

[Paul ™]

Who said that ? Is that because I won't let her drink unsupervised at 13/14

[RABun]

Who said that ? Is that because I won't let her drink unsupervised at 13/14

[worm]

Nothing about that gives any indication whatsoever as to whether what's driving their doings is ideological or pragmatic.