addicts bribed to be sterilized

[nightcrawler13]

£200 to never have a baby

so what do people think?

lots of people are criticizing it, but to be honest i think the population issue of our planet means that convincing anyone not to have kids is a good idea

[ampersand]

give us £2000, and i'll think about it.

heard the guy interviewed though. he has a point though. can just about support himself, so why bring a kid into the world that will probably turn out like him. who we would have to pay to support.

[RABun]

The first person in the UK to accept the cash is drug addict "John" from Leicester who says he "should never be a father".

[rabid]

Because he's not thinking with his addiction and only looking at the £200 part of it.

I agree there is a population issue with the world, but taking away someones fundamental right to have children is not really acceptable is it? You can't ask an addict what he would do for £200. at the point he is desperate he will say anything. Its like extracting a confession through torture. You're never sure whether that confession is true or just said to stop the pain.

I think its awful when babies are born with problem becauses the mother was an addict. But this a life changing proposition. If they overcome their addictions and want to settle down and have kids they wont be able to. Thats very unfair.

[RABun]

and if they don't overcome their addiction and have children it is unfair on the child...

...the world is a shite and vile place...

[Steve P]

Because he's not thinking with his addiction and only looking at the £200 part of it.

I agree there is a population issue with the world, but taking away someones fundamental right to have children is not really acceptable is it? You can't ask an addict what he would do for £200. at the point he is desperate he will say anything. Its like extracting a confession through torture. You're never sure whether that confession is true or just said to stop the pain.

I think its awful when babies are born with problem becauses the mother was an addict. But this a life changing proposition. If they overcome their addictions and want to settle down and have kids they wont be able to. Thats very unfair.

[benc]

I think this will reduce crime and population etc.. so on that end, its a good thing.

But I think it's wrong to be offering people £200 while their judgement is clouded, its a massive decesion and should not be taken lightly. Many of these people my be stuck in a rut and may eventually turn their lifes around even to the extent of wanting a child.

Hardly seems worth £200 also

Isn't the precedure reversable though?

[worm]

Penalise those in poverty for the crime of conforming to their poverty. Sounds extremely right wing to me.

Why don't we penalise those drug addicts with billions of pounds? You know, those with an upper class drug addiction?

[gratedenini]

Can you be snipped twice? If so--I hope she comes brayin on my door!

Look... everybody has their price.. for anything..and anybody who says they dont are liars.

There are just too many iffs and buts to this scheme..and so overall I think it is wrong.

If that bloke pays his rent... I`ll eat some cake.

den

[ronaldo]

Why don't we penalise those drug addicts with billions of pounds? You know, those with an upper class drug addiction?

[worm]

Cos rest of society wont have to pay for their junky kids if they have them, they can pay for them themselves

Edited October 18, 2010 by worm

[ronaldo]

If someone is a drug addict and struggling to look after themselves (never mind a child) then not having a child sounds like a good idea to me

[Steve P]

but what about peoples right to be reckless c**ts

[worm]

If someone is a drug addict and struggling to look after themselves (never mind a child) then not having a child sounds like a good idea to me

Edited October 18, 2010 by worm

[bunique]

Start of a very slippery slope. Next comes sterilising the mentally handicapped etc.

[eFestivals]

I would start with anyone found in a pub at 11 am on a weekday...

Why? We're not all lightweights who have to go home for a lie-down after a half of shandy. Unlike you.

[nightcrawler13]

though you can take a moral highground on the matter, you are ignoring the fact there is a MASSIVE population crisis on our planet

we simply can not produce enough resources to feed everyone if the population continues to grow at this rate

so surely any way of keeping the population down is a good thing?

[eFestivals]

though you can take a moral highground on the matter, you are ignoring the fact there is a MASSIVE population crisis on our planet

we simply can not produce enough resources to feed everyone if the population continues to grow at this rate

so surely any way of keeping the population down is a good thing?

I'm 100% with you on the need to reduce the population (not that it'll ever happen, but that's another thing).

What I am against is sterilising a part of the population because - as worm correctly pointed out - they're poor.

We need to have a grown up debate on the population issues. We don't get to do that by allowing people to be killed off only on the basis that they're poor.

[eFestivals]

There is the other view that we need more kids to pay for the countries old... and people like Neil view everyone with a pension and trying to look after themselves as a c**t So new kids are important...

I said nothing like that.

But anyway, if we killed off the oldies we don't need extra kids to support them.

[dakyras]

Don't kill them off. We can use their bodies' electrical energy for power, like in The Matrix!

[feral chile]

I said nothing like that.

But anyway, if we killed off the oldies we don't need extra kids to support them.

[Cardboard Box City]

This is old news (a few months at least). The woman who started it pretty much stated that she couldn't give a shit about the addicts in question, just the hundreds of the thousands of children that are taken in to care in the US - I believe she'd adopted two crack babies. She kept giving the example of a addict in the city she was from who had had something like 18 children taken away from her.

[saratink]

If you think about it, £200 isn't alot for an addict as you read about them spending hundreds each week.

Personally, i'd never give up my right to having a child for any amount of money, but then again, i'm not addicted to drugs, and to create a human life is worth way more than £200/£2000/£20000/£200000000 measley pounds.

[eFestivals]

Yes you did... You called me a c**t because I want to retire at 55

yep. Because you will be (on average) drawing a bigger pension than you've made in contributions.

It's more commonly called 'stealing'.

[eFestivals]

How so ?

never heard of "pension deficits"?