Is this how bad the daily mail has become?

[modey]

awful piece on the joanna yeates murder Clicky

Is this woman who wrote this actually getting paid for sh**e like that?!

I find Tesco, and go in. I almost buy that upmarket pizza; the choice tells me Jo wanted a lovely life, something above the ordinary.

Edited January 18, 2011 by modey

[sifi]

Better than supporting fascists mind.

[lost]

Leaving Jo’s flat, I return to my car. My satnav takes me to the Clifton Suspension Bridge.

The theory is the killer took the long route from the flat to where he dumped the body to avoid the CCTV cameras. Perhaps he also wanted to avoid the 50p toll.

I don’t have 50p and try tossing 30p and a White Company button into the bucket. It doesn’t work.

There is now an angry queue behind me. Isn’t it interesting that you can snatch a young woman’s life away from her in the most violent, painful, frightening way possible, take away her future children, her future Christmases, take away everything she loves, and yet there are elaborate systems in place to ensure you do not cross a bridge for only 30 pence?

[grumpyhack]

Yes it's page-filling twaddle but the police must be getting a bit desperate to stop the story fading from public concern and memory and are still probably grateful for every bit of coverage they can get.

It was an unpleasant murder, as are all murders, The vast majority get solved quickly as there is usually a connection between the victim and the killer. It's much harder when there is no obvious link and it would seem that forensics haven't thrown anything up yet. So in the end it will probably be a sighting or something noticed by a member of the public that will provide the key. Hence the need for stuff like this.

[jump]

This article just raises more questions...

The bar is OK but ordinary. The wine list, chalked on a board, says ‘Lauren Perrier’.

I wish she had spent what were probably her last hours on earth somewhere lovelier. The food is awful (I ask for a veggie burger and it comes without the burger – and without the bun!) but the young women behind the bar are sweet with huge, wary eyes.

Alex is working her way through uni, where she is studying English. She comes from London and her parents are now terrified something is going to happen to her.

Edited January 19, 2011 by jump

[rabid]

Is this woman who wrote this actually getting paid for sh**e like that?!

[jump]

Just been trying to stop laughing at my desk whilst reading this...

Karen Fenessey retraces the steps of Liz Jones, the night she wrote her article for the Mail on Sunday

Why didn't someone fill her glass with bleach? Liz just hours before the horror.It's Friday night and I am in a bar not far from Liz Jones's house near Taunton. This is where Liz stopped off for a drink before she set off home past all the twinkly shops (a Boots, a JJB Sports, a 'Marks and Sparks'; Taunton is nothing if not a place that has some shops) towards her laptop computer.

I wish she had spent what were probably her last hours before writing her article somewhere lovelier. The food is awful (I ask for sausage and chips and it comes without the sausage - and without the chips!) but the young women behind the bar are sweet with huge, wobbly eyes.

Alex is working her way through uni, where she is studying something called 'English'. She comes from London and her parents are now terrified she might become a journalist for the Daily Mail. She was working here that night. She says she saw things. With her eyes.

Lyn, with very very very very blonde hair, who was also working here that night, says she is 'more fearful of newspapers now, I'm more nervous. It's just so mysterious how someone could have written an article like that'.

I leave the bar at 8pm and retrace Liz's steps. Even though it's January, the streets have people on them all walking somewhere or other. There are a couple of women joggers but they are with boyfriends or husbands who are reading the Independent.

I walk past a university building on my right (no doubt full of people with pens) with Waitrose on my left. I wander the bright aisles, full of young women rushing round after work - it's almost as if they are shopping. They leave with carrier bags full of expectation and yoghurt.

I head up the hill towards the leafy part of Taunton. It's quieter now, and darker. I find Tesco, and go in. This also turns out to be a shop. I almost buy the same upmarket pizza that Liz bought; the choice tells me she liked ham, but really good ham. Not ham that was full of water and hormones. Ham that you can get from a nice village butcher full of young women rushing around.

When I reach Liz's sleepy village, there is one police van on the green as I turn right into her street.

I bet her heart lifted as she reached this spot, looking forward to the feeling only a Friday night spent composing something utterly unspeakable for the Mail on Sunday can give you.

As I near her house, the road is quiet. It's almost as if there are no other people in the immediate vicinity. Earlier in the day there had been an ITN news van but I notice from the absence of big vans with 'ITN' written on the side that it has gone now. I'm reassured to see two policemen standing vigil at her iron gate, either side of a small, discreet pile of dog turds in varying degrees of decay.

I tell them I'm spooked, walking here. 'Don't be spooked,' one says. 'Residents are campaigning to get brighter street lights installed so they can see Liz Jones coming and pretend to be statues.' So the old antique, lovely nice ones are to disappear to be replaced by not nice ones that are all new because of something even not nicer.

That afternoon I had gone to the newsagent where Liz's article was discovered. It was horrible and windswept. I don't know what I had expected. A newsagent possibly. I'm not really sure.

There was no ceremony here, no policeman, just the article on a now dog-eared poster. I got the feeling the world is starting to forget Liz, that she'll become just another thumbnail on the Daily Mail website, along with Peter Hitchens, Jan Moir and that f**king lunatic Melanie Phillips.

I'd have expected the cars to slow down here to show respect but they sped past, as if people were driving them. Were they driving home from work? Did the police even care? The lane is narrow. I can't see how someone could have come out of the newsagent with a copy of the Daily Mail without being beeped at and told to get out the way, as I was just because I was standing in the middle of the road.

There were no messages with the turds, just one card, still sealed in its Cellophane. The person who left it hadn't bothered to remove the Cellophane or write on the Cellophane. I thought about Cellophane. Did the police even care?

Leaving the newsagent, I return to my car. My satnav takes me to the M6.

The theory is Liz's article took the long route from her house to the newsagent to avoid the CCTV cameras. Perhaps it also wanted to avoid paying the £5 toll.

I don't have £5 and try tossing a Kraft cheese single and a Michael Bublé CD into the toll booth. It doesn't work.

There is now an angry queue behind me. Isn't it interesting that you can write an article for the Mail on Sunday in the most violent, painful, frightening way possible and yet there are elaborate systems in place to ensure you do not get to break the law?

Finally, a man in a taxi jumps out, and runs to me brandishing a £5 note.

'Not all men are Liz Jones,' he says, grinning. Maybe not. But one Liz Jones is all it takes.

[diddly-dee]

What an unbelievably shoddy piece of 'journalism'. It reduces the, genuinely, tragic to utterly banal. A new low even for the daily mail. If it wasn't so crass, the amateurishness of the article would be hilarious.

[jump]

What an unbelievably shoddy piece of 'journalism'. It reduces the, genuinely, tragic to utterly banal. A new low even for the daily mail. If it wasn't so crass, the amateurishness of the article would be hilarious.

Edited January 19, 2011 by jump

[eFestivals]

What an unbelievably shoddy piece of 'journalism'. It reduces the, genuinely, tragic to utterly banal. A new low even for the daily mail. If it wasn't so crass, the amateurishness of the article would be hilarious.

It's not a new low for the mail, it's very standard stuff for them.

Every time I flip thru that paper I'm struck by the huge absence of news, and how much of it is filled with idiot comment along the lines of this, alongside the most uninteresting of features.

Still, those middle aged women who buy it do need something to do between each stroke of their pussy.

[jump]

A man is being held on suspicion for the murder now, can't wait to hear Liz Jones thoughts on it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-12238262

[windy_miller]

A man is being held on suspicion for the murder now, can't wait to hear Liz Jones thoughts on it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-12238262

Edited January 20, 2011 by windy_miller

[diddly-dee]

A man is being held on suspicion for the murder now, can't wait to hear Liz Jones thoughts on it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-12238262

[eFestivals]

I still reckon it was the pizza that did it.

Hang the pizza!!! Prison is too good for it.

[grumpyhack]

A man is being held on suspicion for the murder now, can't wait to hear Liz Jones thoughts on it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...ristol-12238262

[ampersand]

just realised my gigs in and around clifton. might as well go and do the joanna last day run like liz!

though there's nae oven in the hotel room to cook wur pizza!

[jump]

We'll all eat our words (or the missing pizza) if the information that led to the arrest came from someone prompted by reading Liz Jones' article.

Edited January 20, 2011 by jump

[MrZigster]

The latest Private Eye (1280) makes some rather insightful comments regarding the medias irresponsibility in their reporting of this case (and also the Arizona shooter). Pages 6 & 10. You'll have to buy it as I'm not typing out the whole Eye TV column, but it really is spot on.

[eFestivals]

The latest Private Eye (1280) makes some rather insightful comments regarding the medias irresponsibility in their reporting of this case (and also the Arizona shooter). Pages 6 & 10. You'll have to buy it as I'm not typing out the whole Eye TV column, but it really is spot on.

yeah, have seen them.

But I find it hard to particularly blame the media for the bollocks they published about the landlord, when it always seemed clear to me that he was arrested only because he looks a bit weird (that MUST mean he's guilty, eh? ), and he disputed to a TV crew what the police had told that TV crew that the landlord had said to them - it's always a bad idea to dispute the old bills version, because they'll decide that they couldn't possibly get things wrong or lie, so that means in their stupid heads that the Landlord must a liar, and if he's a liar he's obviously guilty.

As the old bill are operating with the intelligence of a gnat, they can't really complain when others mirror them.

As ever, the idea of police intelligence is a misnomer.

[ampersand]

to be honest, i didn't even think the landlord looked that weird. poor guy!

[jump]

to be honest, i didn't even think the landlord looked that weird. poor guy!

[Ed209]

yeah, have seen them.

But I find it hard to particularly blame the media for the bollocks they published about the landlord, when it always seemed clear to me that he was arrested only because he looks a bit weird (that MUST mean he's guilty, eh? ), and he disputed to a TV crew what the police had told that TV crew that the landlord had said to them - it's always a bad idea to dispute the old bills version, because they'll decide that they couldn't possibly get things wrong or lie, so that means in their stupid heads that the Landlord must a liar, and if he's a liar he's obviously guilty.

As the old bill are operating with the intelligence of a gnat, they can't really complain when others mirror them.

As ever, the idea of police intelligence is a misnomer.

[eFestivals]

Hang on a sec. He was her landlord so she would have known him. He lived above her so could easily have knowledge of her movements. He had a key to her flat so was able to make an unforced entry,

yes, yes, yes - but there's others with all the same too, who weren't arrested on those factors.

and there were discrepancies between his statement to the police and what he told a TV crew.

was there? How do you know?

There WERE differences between what the police said he'd said, and what he said he'd said - which is something entirely different.

Given that it's unlikely that it was the exact copper which interviewed him who told the media what he'd supposedly said, then the discrepancy is FAR more likely to be the fault of the police and not him.

The discrepancy was very minor, but VERY important. The old bill said he'd said he'd seen Jo, while he said he couldn't be sure. I always believed what he said, because that discrepancy would be a pointless lie for him to make, guilty or not.

I would say, even in the Neil book of policing, that made him a suspect. The police arrested him so they could interview him further and conduct forensic examinations of house, property and car, and then released him without charge. The guy was unlucky, and he was a tabloid's dream so the media made him guilty, but I don't think the police did too much wrong.

In the Neil book of policing, that made the old bill look incompetent, it didn't make him look like a suspect.

And what do the old bill ALWAYS do when they're made to look incompetent in a high-profile case? Arrest someone as a diversion.

When I saw him on TV disputing what the old bill had said he'd said, I said to my missus that he'd get arrested off the back of it, but that he wasn't guilty. I have a 100% record for my own deductions here, while the old bill don't.

The old bill did LOADS wrong. They arrested a man on no basis at all, and held him for three days, only to try and make themselves look good.

What else have the old bill done wrong? Do you want a list? It's VERY VERY long!!

Edited January 20, 2011 by eFestivals

[Ed209]

He was held for three days, which means a magistrate had to allow that. The magistrate who is privy to all the information in the case (unlike you or me), including his statement, must have thought there were reasonable grounds for an arrest in the first place to provide an extension.

Edited January 20, 2011 by Ed209

[windy_miller]

Ah, it's just occurred to me that Liz Jones is that bint that wrote this hilarious article about Glastonbury

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1030641/So-DID-fashionista-LIZ-JONES-survive-Glastonbury.html