30STM

[mrtourette]

At the risk of annoying people like myself by starting a thread about a band that have been discussed in various other threads, I'm going to start a thread about a band that have been discussed in various other threads.

Basically I know they're down as a rumour to play but can they seriously sub-headline? Do they have a big enough profile? I don't know how much airplay they get, what size venues they play, other festivals they've been at or where they've charted so can someone enlighten me?

I have four issues:

Isuue #1: They're shit.

Issue #2: I can't believe that two bands with such a similar fanbase and who anyone outside that fanbase seems to despise would be headlining and sub-headlining together.

Issue #3: They aren't big enough to sub-headline regardless of who is headlining.

Issue #4: If MCR are a borderline headliner they need a sub-headliner that nobody can seriously question the credentials of - this is where the Prodigy, although uninspiring, would have come in handy.

Discuss.

[Yellow_Fellow]

Yeah I'm still adamant they're not respectable enough to sub, haha.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

In a word - no.

In significantly more words - I was at Big Weekend last year and if the audience that saw them there was anything to go buy, they'd barely pack out the NME tent let alone take centre stage as the second band from the top. Besides the fact they are shit, their music is ultimately one-dimensional and is representative of the dying genre of Emo Rock - and most who actually listened to that back when it was popular have grown up faster than 30STM seem to have. They're not likely to win any new fans (like MCR's new album seems to be doing, surprisingly) so subbing on the NME stage is probably the most I'd give them in realistic world.

[lharris92]

last tour they had was an arena tour - yes they did play the o2 in london

HOWEVER

they only made so many tickets flog because Enter Shikari were supporting them - i know of a lot of people who went to see them instead of 30STM

wouldnt want to see them..

[Joe-]

Boring boring stuff.

3rd or 4th.

Hopefully no where

[Role Model]

I can't see it happening, they'll go for a very safe sub to back up the "controversial" MCR selection. If they do it's laughable honestly.

[bennyk]

for me they are one of those bands i've heard of but have never gone any further. I wouldn't be seeing them and I doubt they would gather a big crowd. I could see them playing 3rd though.

This makes me think (or wish) we have got something special that Melvin has kept dead quiet.

We can only hope...

[Welshyyy]

when i went to see them in Manchester last december i thought they was good, just a little over the top with the lights.. but 3rd maybe 4th would suit them better, but who else would sub for MCR? seriously

[Hart Attack]

A brief fact profile of Thirty Seconds To Mars:

They haven't charted particularly well - their most successful singles were The Kill and Kings And Queens, which both got to number twenty-eight. As for albums, their most successful was their third and most recent album, This Is War, which got to number fifteen - however it has been certified gold, as has their previous album, A Beautiful Lie. Their self-titled debut did not chart or get any certification status. They seem to be getting a lot more mainstream exposure these days (on TV and the radio), and they played arenas on their last tour, including the O2 (although I don't know if any of those shows sold out - plus they had some heavy-duty support in the form of Enter Shikari). They also headlined the second stage at Download last year.

According to Last.fm, they were the seventh hottest artist of 2010, and have 61 million plays from 1.4 million listeners. For the sake of comparison, Queens Of The Stone Age, Libertines and Paramore have 65 million from 1.5 million, 29 million from 0.9 million and 99 million from 1.4 million respectively.

Edited March 14, 2011 by Hart Attack

[Role Model]

Why do people think you need a similar in style band to sub the headliner? I can sort of understand the logic, but it's not a theory that's set in stone.

[rexclark]

Awful band, just simply awful. Perhapos one of the worst acts to ever grace the festival if they play. On top of that Jared Leto is a c**t.

[PunkyKillick]

Given a half hour set at big weekend and played a total of 4 songs. Jared should shut up, stop being pretentious and just play some songs

[Dave The Hedgehog]

Given a half hour set at big weekend and played a total of 4 songs.

[beards]

They subbed at Rock am Ring last year, but then so did Rise Against. In my opinion they are pure dog shit and if they do play I'll be as far away as possible.

[jump]

Wouldn't make sense to me, they have never played before so why would they go straight in as a sub it's not as if they are NIN or Tenacious D so having them as NME headliner or 3rd would seem more reasonable and looking at the possible top 5 bands they all seem like easy bookings and I can't believe they would spend a whole year and not try to get one wow band which I'm hoping the last sub spot will be. IMO it's between Offspring (yes they're not as popular but they haven't played uk in a while so mybe that countered it) & Soundgarden for the place under MCR.

Them playing euro fests and no uk ones is worrying though.

[mrtourette]

Yeah me too, seems like this might finally be their year to play but I just can't see them subbing. I can't see The Offspring playing that high either though.

[Calzum]

HOWEVER

they only made so many tickets flog because Enter Shikari were supporting them - i know of a lot of people who went to see them instead of 30STM

wouldnt want to see them..

[harderfaster]

As much as I'd enjoy watching 30STM I think MCR/30STM Sunday night would be, in comparison to SP/NIN of 2007, absolutely horrific. Given a 'controversial' headliner in MCR, would they really book just a controversial a sub? It's the fact that it's Sunday that gets me most. The finale of the festival...

[stylishkids]

last tour they had was an arena tour - yes they did play the o2 in london

HOWEVER

they only made so many tickets flog because Enter Shikari were supporting them - i know of a lot of people who went to see them instead of 30STM

wouldnt want to see them..

[jump]

Did 30STM's arena tour actually sell out?

[iwannarock]

I went to both 30STM gigs in Manchester last year. One in february and one in December. Both sold out very quickly. First gig was at MEN and second was at Manchester Central (which is a slightly smaller venue but all standing). On the first gig, the supports were poor and 30stm were superb that night. However, the second time they clearly suffered from fatigue as it was the last gig of the entire 2010 tour and they sounded god awful. Jared doing a 'Robbie Williams' by encouraging the crowd to sing every 5 seconds didn't do much to impress me either. Enter Shikari were definitely better that night.

I don't think have ever played R/L before so I think they will accept a lower slot than sub-headliner. I hope so anyway!!

I like the band but would certainly prefer other acts

[Andiee]

saw them on their last tour and at Big Weekend... they were TERRIBLE at both!

can't play live at all!

Jared Leto does far too much cheesy crowd interaction aswell....

They've only got big becasue they have a famous singer who is "hot" and started this cult "the echelon" that has brain washed 12 year old girls into thinking they are the best thing since sliced bread!

I'd hate to see them any higher than subbing NME, or 4th on mainstage.... but Jared and his management have very big egos!

[harderfaster]

I'd hate to see them any higher than subbing NME, or 4th on mainstage.... but Jared and his management have very big egos!

[Dave The Hedgehog]

saw them on their last tour and at Big Weekend... they were TERRIBLE at both!

[Bisque]

I saw them at Brighton centre as I got a ticket for £5 off eBay. Enter Shikari were brilliant. I only stayed to the end so I could catch Kings of Queens (which was pretty good) & I was driving home anyway. I would say 25% of the audience were over 20 years old & they all left after ES, just leaving teenage girls & their mums. I swear their songs go on for about half an hour too which would be alright if they were any good.