Matticus Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 can't believe they are close to passing this. http://deathpenaltynews.blogspot.com/2011/05/uganda-kill-gays-bill-may-become-fast.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcatraz Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 (edited) I can't actually find any source from a neutral news source that suggests the 'Death penalty' part is still part of the bill. Obviously, the whole premise is totally disgusting edit: No wait, I have. Sickening Edited May 9, 2011 by Alcatraz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightcrawler13 Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 probably won't do anything, but better to try than not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t8yman Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 The level of homophobia in uganda is horrific, I watched that programme where scott mills went there to question people (I incidentally didnt know scott mills was gay at that point - not that it matters) and the stuff he had people taking about and admitting to was terrifying. it always comes back to religion I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nal Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 The level of homophobia in uganda is horrific, I watched that programme where scott mills went there to question people (I incidentally didnt know scott mills was gay at that point - not that it matters) and the stuff he had people taking about and admitting to was terrifying. it always comes back to religion I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyelo Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) The level of homophobia in uganda is horrific, I watched that programme where scott mills went there to question people (I incidentally didnt know scott mills was gay at that point - not that it matters) and the stuff he had people taking about and admitting to was terrifying. it always comes back to religion I'm afraid. Edited May 12, 2011 by BenchBuddah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyelo Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 What an incredibly simplistic and utterly moronic thing to say... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nal Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 You place the blame mainly on Christianity and other issues as secondary... Read much of the bible have we ? The bible says very little about the issue of homosexuality... This is pretty much the brunt of it... Considering the passage of time and progression mankinds understanding / thoughts and feelings have developed on the issue. For anyone to hold up this as the be all and end all of the subject is f**king barmy to be frank. Either you to attack religion or these barmy f**kers for using as a device to hurt people. The problem is not "religion"... It is nasty f**kers exploiting faith for the age old want of power and control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyelo Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 You place the blame mainly on Christianity and other issues as secondary... Read much of the bible have we ? The bible says very little about the issue of homosexuality... This is pretty much the brunt of it... Considering the passage of time and progression mankinds understanding / thoughts and feelings have developed on the issue. For anyone to hold up this as the be all and end all of the subject is f**king barmy to be frank. Either you to attack religion or these barmy f**kers for using as a device to hurt people. The problem is not "religion"... It is nasty f**kers exploiting faith for the age old want of power and control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyelo Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 (edited) It annoys you that people are still searching for what is the right moral compass to live their life by ? Do you have it all sorted out ? Edited May 13, 2011 by BenchBuddah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jump Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 You place the blame mainly on Christianity and other issues as secondary... Read much of the bible have we ? The bible says very little about the issue of homosexuality... This is pretty much the brunt of it... Considering the passage of time and progression mankinds understanding / thoughts and feelings have developed on the issue. For anyone to hold up this as the be all and end all of the subject is f**king barmy to be frank. Either you to attack religion or these barmy f**kers for using as a device to hurt people. Trusting everything to a book written so long ago in a different time is utterly ridiculous and isn't representative of the modern Christian I do not feel. Not every Christianity believes homosexuality is a sin. The problem is not "religion"... It is nasty f**kers exploiting faith for the age old want of power and control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyelo Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 You do understand the number of different Christians and the whole spectrum of beliefs ? Not all Christians accept huge chunks of the Old Testament for example... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jump Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 I don't really take a lot of notice of what that nutter thinks to be frank... but I can say there are many Christians who feel he dosen't speak for them... Surely you appreciate this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyelo Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Nice quotes... Let me know when there is one version of the bible I can pick up and use... Until then I guess I will have to accept that there is contradictions to be worked through... Every factored in some parts of the Bible aren't the world of God but more the world of the controlling man ? I have... Others have... Some haven't... Seems out of order to lump us all in one label.... Really ? Every time I listen to a Radio 5 phone in on the issue of Gay couples adopting children the general public (some religious some not) seem to present some very strong views... No doubt some religious leaders push these ideas... A lot don't... and many accept its a fringe issue and isn't the major issues facing the world / society / our faith... The issue hardly comes up in services at the church I attend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylerdurden Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 The issue and negative feeling towards homosexuality where around long before the bible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banana Co Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 Even it that is the only bit in the bible that mentions homosexuality it is still enough to tell us that the "word of god" says it is wrong. An abomination? Should put to death? That's f**king mental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifi Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 Theres been no "update" from God on this since the Bible was written. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feral chile Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 Even it that is the only bit in the bible that mentions homosexuality it is still enough to tell us that the "word of god" says it is wrong. An abomination? Should put to death? That's f**king mental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifi Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 St Paul condemns homosexuality in his letters. New Testsment enough for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunique Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 Have to say, in my experience of the Catholic Church (not Catholics per se), it's still pretty Old Testament where gays are concerned. And women. And about a million other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feral chile Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 (edited) St Paul condemns homosexuality in his letters. New Testsment enough for you? Edited May 14, 2011 by feral chile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feral chile Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 Have to say, in my experience of the Catholic Church (not Catholics per se), it's still pretty Old Testament where gays are concerned. And women. And about a million other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexclark Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 The problem is people who take the bible too literally. It was written over 2000 years ago. You can only take so much of it and use it in the context of now. Bob Marley refusing to have his toe amputeated and then dying due to it because the bible said Leviticus 21:5 "They shall not make baldness upon their head, neither shall they shave off the corner of their beard, nor make any cuttings in the flesh". Load of bollocks, I'm sure God would want anyone to do whatever they could to preserve their life same as he'd want anyone to be happy whatever way they did it even if they wanted to be with someone of the same sex. I personally don't believe in god and I dislike alot of aspects of organised religion. This just makes me dislike it more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feral chile Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 The problem is people who take the bible too literally. It was written over 2000 years ago. You can only take so much of it and use it in the context of now. Bob Marley refusing to have his toe amputeated and then dying due to it because the bible said Leviticus 21:5 "They shall not make baldness upon their head, neither shall they shave off the corner of their beard, nor make any cuttings in the flesh". Load of bollocks, I'm sure God would want anyone to do whatever they could to preserve their life same as he'd want anyone to be happy whatever way they did it even if they wanted to be with someone of the same sex. I personally don't believe in god and I dislike alot of aspects of organised religion. This just makes me dislike it more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyelo Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 You have to decide ultimately... A lot of people, specially around here, like to push the idea that a religious person turns off their brain and commitments totally to the "Bible"... The reality is so much different and it shows how little people understand or at least the appreciate the diversity of the followers in any religion... Debate inside the "church" on many issue is fierce with many different ideas and opinions... The media and haters want to pigeon hole opinion too easily... You for example seem to be viewing Christian thoughts and feeling as a hard line Catholic person... Which country you thinking of ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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