junglist_matty Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 Orange juice mixers taste fine warm compared with beers, fizzy alcho-mixers etc... 10x 2 Litre bottles (half and half) vodka and orange - 1 per day, 1 per night fair enough to your camping comment, whatever floats your boat; I've paid a lot of money for a ticket and I'm not going to sit around a campsite when I could be out watching bands seeing as they start at 10am... and stay out till around 3-6am. I can pay £5 a night to go to a campsite and enjoy far more luxurious camping (i.e. car nearby, power points, nearby shops for cheap cold beers etc.); I consider Glastonbury and camping two different things all together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukslim Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 I only really drink beer but don't like cans and would rather not have to go to/pay at the bar all weekend... Anyone ever found anywhere you can buy plastic bottled beers you're allowed to take into the site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameshunt Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 If you pour it into a cup/glass, beer from a can tastes IDENTICAL to beer from a bottle. I didn't believe it. Eventually I organised myself a blind tasting, and now I'm convinced. I think if you drink straight from the can, you taste the outside of the can - but pour it out, and it's fine. So, buy cans, and take a plastic cup of some kind. http://www.caravanstuff4u.co.uk/product1325.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukslim Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 I don't believe it. Ale in a bottle tastes very different to canned ale and that's not even considering bottle-conditioned ales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameshunt Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 I'll admit I've not tried it with bitter, although I don't see in principle why it would be any different. I tried it with, I think, Kronenburg -- because my local corner shop had both the cans and the bottles on special offer -- and I was unable to tell the difference. I really expected to taste a difference; the question I was after answering was which one tastes better. I don't think you've a right to refute that, until you've done your own blind tasting. Be thorough about making it properly blind -- double-blind if you've a scientific bent. You can't get bottle-conditioned ale in cans, so it's sort of moot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crow Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 I freeze those plastic flimsy lunchbox/takeaway trays you can get (4 for a £1) then pop out into plastic bags. Nice and thick to stay cool longer and less wasted space than plastic bottles. Didn't even use a cool box last year, just two cardboard boxes (one smaller than other) and packed the space between them with hay, and any air gaps inside the 'cool box' with newspaper. Had ice until Saturday. If you focus on having ice, rather than cooling warm cans down, it will last longer. Then drink the melted water from the bags and burn the box/straw on the last day. Nothing to drag back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameshunt Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 ... You can't get bottle-conditioned ale in cans, so it's sort of moot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachmac Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 We have a cool backpack (small one just large enough to fit our bacon in) we freeze most of the bacon, stick cool blocks in and use a space blanket as extra protection to keep the cold air in the coolbag! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukslim Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 (edited) I realise that you can't get bottled conditioned ale in cans. My point being that there is a significant difference between keeping ale in a bottle rather than a can. Otherwise there would be no bottle conditioned ales or they would also be available in cans. So not entirely moot as it underlines that there is a difference. Edited May 27, 2011 by ukslim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JodiB Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Ale from a CASK is different to Ale from a KEG. Cask ale is live and cloudy. Upon delivery to the pub it needs to be vented and tapped. It is then left 48 hrs to clear before you can serve it. You then have about 5 days to drink it or it will spoil. You are left with a sediment at the bottom of the cask. Cask ale is drawn by hand with a pump called a beer engine. Cask ale is not gassy. Ale from a pressurised keg is not live and never cloudy. Upon delivery it is ready to serve. Gas is required to serve it from the keg and it runs through a cooler unit before serving. It will last about 1 month before it spoils. It tastes different to real ale and is usually gassy. Keg ale is drawn by a regular powered pump like lager is. All "creamflow" bitters are keg beers. What you generally find in bottles is Cask ale (real ale after it has cleared (conditioned) i.e no sediment from the cask and not gassy)e.g old speckled hen / spitfire / old peculiar. What you generally find in cans is keg ale (gassy and sometimes with a widget) e.g worthingtons / john smiths / boddingtons. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fur_q Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 What you generally find in cans is keg ale (gassy and sometimes with a widget) e.g worthingtons / john smiths / boddingtons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukslim Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Well, I've just bought some Brewdog Punk IPA in cans from Sainsbury's, so I'll report back on how it is. Unfortunately they don't have the bottles any more there, so I won't be able to do a side-by-side comparison. While I was there, I noted what other decent beers were available in cans. Spitfire, Speckled Hen, Ruddles, among others. When these are sold in bottles, they're not live either, so I'm 99% sure it's the same stuff in both cans and bottles. Neither glass nor the lining of a can will add or remove flavour to/from the beer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmoman Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Well, I've just bought some Brewdog Punk IPA in cans from Sainsbury's, so I'll report back on how it is. Unfortunately they don't have the bottles any more there, so I won't be able to do a side-by-side comparison. While I was there, I noted what other decent beers were available in cans. Spitfire, Speckled Hen, Ruddles, among others. When these are sold in bottles, they're not live either, so I'm 99% sure it's the same stuff in both cans and bottles. Neither glass nor the lining of a can will add or remove flavour to/from the beer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukslim Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Not true, beer always tastes better from a glass bottle, cans do leak gas very slightly, if you open an out of date can of any fizzy drink you will notice it has less fizz than it should, glass bottles are much better, (pet bottles have the same problem) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukslim Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 BTW I'm banging on about this, because I always used to buy bottles rather than cans when there was a choice, and sometimes I spent more than I needed to because of it. Then I did the blind tasting, and now I know that if it's the same beer, then it tastes the same out of either. I've saved myself some money, and carried less weight, as a result. Cans are also greener, if they're being transported a long way, and being recycled. A lot of the nicer beers on the market aren't sold in cans, of course, and a lot of the nastier ones are only sold in cans. Anyone in their right mind would rather a bottle of Innes & Gunn than a can of Worthington's. Also, beware comparing things that aren't the same. (Sorry, off on a tangent) I was at Aston Uni in the 90s, where the Student Guild had Stones for 95p a pint. The Sacks of Potatoes next door had Stones for quite a lot more. But the Guild had kegs and the Sacks had cask, and there was a world of difference between them. And Stones in cans was different again. Likewise, apparently you can get nice Boddington's in Manchester. I've never been there to try it, but it must be different from the bland nonsense in cans and pumps nationwide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmoman Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 If it's out of date, then all bets are off. Surely crowns and corks also leak gas "very slightly". These Brewdog cans have an expiry date of Dec 2011, which is pretty short I reckon, but clearly I'll drink them all within the weekend If you're drinking straight from the can, I think you can taste the metal on the rim/top of the can, because you're touching it with your mouth. If you've poured it, I think it's your imagination. I'm convinced you can't taste any difference -- see my previous post about blind-tasting lager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukslim Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Ale from a CASK is different to Ale from a KEG. (snip) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukslim Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 Well, I've just bought some Brewdog Punk IPA in cans from Sainsbury's, so I'll report back on how it is. Unfortunately they don't have the bottles any more there, so I won't be able to do a side-by-side comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ploppy Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 Anyone keep food in their coolbox? Been given a 24ltr coolbox and wondering if I can make use of it to keep food in. Was thinking fresh pasta would be a good one as needs to be refrigerated. Chicken breasts should keep for days would they? Thats all I can think of. Any other coolbox suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JodiB Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 Anyone keep food in their coolbox? Been given a 24ltr coolbox and wondering if I can make use of it to keep food in. Was thinking fresh pasta would be a good one as needs to be refrigerated. Chicken breasts should keep for days would they? Thats all I can think of. Any other coolbox suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migraine Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 I have an Igloo Island Breeze 60 and Glasto will be it's first outing, I'm wondering if I am going to have enough frozen stuff in it to keep the contents cool. I have managed to fit in 48 cans of cider 2 boxes of westons cider and 4 x 1 litre cartons of fruit juice. I have got 2 stacks of 18 cans of cider on the left and right of the box seperated by the two boxes of westons in the middle 12 cans are on there side at the back of the cooler and then sat on top of the cans are the 4 boxes of fruit juice with makes it a pretty tight fit. Do the coolbox seasoned amongst you think that freezing the Weston's and fruit juice (2 x 3 Litres & 4 x 1 Litre) be enough to keep the rest cool (the cans of cider will be pre-chilled) and would I be best moving the fruit juice to the bottom and then just trying to cram as many icecubes on the top as I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ark Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Anyone keep food in their coolbox? Chicken breasts should keep for days would they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ark Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 I unearthed my cool box from last year, and found some plastic bottles to which I had added salt, as salted water freezes at a lower temperature. Not sure where I got that idea from, but does anyone know wether salted water freezes at a lower temperature than freezer packs? Most of the contents of my cool box will be liquid - OJ, water, milk, wine - no food at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneCircle Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 I have an Igloo Island Breeze 60 and Glasto will be it's first outing, I'm wondering if I am going to have enough frozen stuff in it to keep the contents cool. I have managed to fit in 48 cans of cider 2 boxes of westons cider and 4 x 1 litre cartons of fruit juice. I have got 2 stacks of 18 cans of cider on the left and right of the box seperated by the two boxes of westons in the middle 12 cans are on there side at the back of the cooler and then sat on top of the cans are the 4 boxes of fruit juice with makes it a pretty tight fit. Do the coolbox seasoned amongst you think that freezing the Weston's and fruit juice (2 x 3 Litres & 4 x 1 Litre) be enough to keep the rest cool (the cans of cider will be pre-chilled) and would I be best moving the fruit juice to the bottom and then just trying to cram as many icecubes on the top as I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migraine Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 (edited) Cheers for the reply StoneCircle I unearthed my cool box from last year, and found some plastic bottles to which I had added salt, as salted water freezes at a lower temperature. Not sure where I got that idea from, but does anyone know wether salted water freezes at a lower temperature than freezer packs? Most of the contents of my cool box will be liquid - OJ, water, milk, wine - no food at all Edited June 5, 2011 by Migraine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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