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Exactly!!!

So its gone from 10,000ish to 12,500 in terms of official capacity.

OR if you prefer to think in terms of numbers of tickets it's gone from 7,000/8,000 to 10,000.

It has NOT gone from 7,500 to 12,500.

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The ONLY actual information about this came from Simon, the organiser of the festival, who said (as I posted above) that there would be 8,500 adults at this years festival. He also said that there had actually been 7,000 tickets sold in each of 2009 and 2010.

This fits in perfectly with it being 10,000 tickets and 12,500 capacity this year.

It seems no matter how many times some of us calmly repeat these facts, this usually friendly, bubbly, forum keeps getting over run by "oh gawd it's doubled in size"...."it's gone from 7,500 to 12,500 in a year" rubbish from people who seem unwilling or unable to actually read the forum.

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I think, as Geofelgie said, that the figure of 8500 adults given by Simon in an interview is probably going to be accurate :) .

I'm a bit disappointed with the increase, because I see the boutique size of the festival as one of its greatest strengths. Worth noting that the main word that EoTR uses to describe itself is "intimate" - see their website, Facebook, Twitter pages. And if you look at the programmes from the last couple of years, Simon says things like 'bigger is not always better', and (while he doesn't rule it out) appears to be opposed to massive expansion of the festival.

Me, personally, I like the feeling of space that we had at previous festivals. I was at Field Day the other week, and frankly the crowding was a big factor in me not enjoying the day much. But ultimately that's a subjective opinion, one which many others may disagree with. And I hope that EoTR remains uncrowded enough that it isn't an issue :).

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The ONLY actual information about this came from Simon, the organiser of the festival, who said (as I posted above) that there would be 8,500 adults at this years festival. He also said that there had actually been 7,000 tickets sold in each of 2009 and 2010.

This fits in perfectly with it being 10,000 tickets and 12,500 capacity this year.

It seems no matter how many times some of us calmly repeat these facts, this usually friendly, bubbly, forum keeps getting over run by "oh gawd it's doubled in size"...."it's gone from 7,500 to 12,500 in a year" rubbish from people who seem unwilling or unable to actually read the forum.

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I organised a festival that had about 10,000 attendees this year, on a site much smaller than EotR.

I can tell you that even 12,500 would fit comfortably at Larmer Tree. They are duty bound to increase facilities to match the increase in numbers (there are strict guidelines in place in respect of camping and standing space not to mention toilets and water) and given that the main arena area had the feel of a village fete last year I can't really see that such a small increase will have any effect.

However, there comes a time when organisers have to realise that by constantly tweaking, something of the original vibe is lost as is the heart and soul of a festival. So I'd urge Simon and the team to not push it any further and risk losing the finest festival in the land.

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FAT BUDDHA....perhaps they should resite the festival here

World's Biggest Pie

Every now and then the villagers of Denby Dale, near Huddersfield, Yorkshire bake the world's biggest meat and potato pie

The first recorded making of a pie in the village was in 1788 to celebrate the recovery of King George III from mental illness. Since that time nine other pies have been baked, usually to coincide with a special event or to raise money for a local cause.

The pie dish in the year 2000 weighed 12 tonnes and was 40ft long, 8ft wide and 3ft 8in deep, and the pie itself contained three tonnes of beef, half a tonne of potatoes and 22 gallons of John Snith's Best Bitter. It was transported into Pie Field on a 70ft waggon - and blessed by the Bishop of Wakefield

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Oh my bleedin' Gawd!

I am very cross with all of you...

I turn my back for five minutes and what happens? This oasis of message board loveliness turns into the bastard son of the Latitude Forum!

Those of you not new to this parish will attest that no-one likes a god ding-dong more than me, but I am a little taken aback by the vitriol that has appeared whilst I, selflessly, tried to absorb as much of the Aegean sunshine as possible so as to reduce others' chances of developing skin cancer.

Now I acknowledge that it's incredibly arrogant to try to suggest the tone in which anyone should post, but to make your first post on a well-established forum rather confrontational is rather poor 'etiquette'. Especially if the regular posters on the forum are known for their friendliness, whilst not detracting from their passion for and willingness to debate the merits of, their musical likes and loathes.

I think that the Capacity debate has been an interesting one, albeit somewhat diluted by a seeming lack of reliable information. I agree that Simon's previously interview-quoted figure of 8500 adults is likely to be the most accurate. I just cannot believe that this will in a anyway detract from the feel of the festival; a festival's personality is, to a great extent, determined by it's clientele which is itself a product of it's line-up. You only have to look at the 'change' in the vibe at Latitude when Flo-Jo and her dull Machine were the 'hook' act. The average age came down a noticeable amount and that made a difference, especially in the campsite and In The Woods late at night. That's not a complaint from an old fogie, just an observation - in any case, this old fogie can give still the young 'uns a run for their money. Assuming that this year's line-up is a fairly typical (and rather marvellous, may I say) EOTR edition, then an increase of maybe 1000-1500 people attracted for the same reasons as the rest of us, with a new Main Stage will, in my prediction, make bugger all difference in the main. Of course there are some inevitable changes that the increased capacity will bring about:

If part of your EOTR was the unique and idyllic setting and appearance of the Garden Stage, then you might have a little work to do preparing for it no longer being the main stage. I would hope, perhaps naively but certainly optimistically, that Simon and Sofia seem so in tune with the vibe of the festival that the Woods Stage will also be a beautifully presented music venue, leaving the Garden Stage unchanged in its former glory to play host to many other fine acts (OR, for one!). All that remains now is the Sue & Ben mission to get Other Lives upgraded to an hour on The Garden Stage and all will be well with the World! Pal of mine saw them at Green Man this afternoon - pretty fantastic, by all accounts.

So, keep debating and we should keep throwing this issue around. But play nicely children or I'll bring some meds home from work and use them indiscriminately. Great holiday, but I have missed you guys...

Ben

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