The Dirty Independence Question

[eFestivals]

30 minutes ago, LJS said:

 

 

15%of scots have a faxvourable view of rapeyman thats rather damning

[eFestivals]

2 hours ago, mcshed said:

Salmond's party will find it easier to pick up list seats than the SNP so this probably helps the independence movement. Can't see the Greens doing too well though as they picked up quite a bit of proxy SNP support on the lists.

 

[LJS]

24 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

15%of scots have a faxvourable view of rapeyman thats rather damning

I guess it's possible that they believe his acquittal means he is non-rapey man.

[mcshed]

1 hour ago, LJS said:

Not sure I agree. He will be mainly aiming for Snp list votes which means he will have to attack the SNP. ITV will also keep the whole salmond/sturgeon/harrassment thing on the agenda which won't help the SNP.

I think he could potentially cost the SNP an overall majority. 

I would have preferred it if he had crawled into a hole somewhere.

I suppose it depends on how well he does. If he doesn't manage to get up to the ~5% needed to get any list seats then yes he's just take pro-Indy votes away from the SNP/Greens but if he can poll around 10% in some regions then it'll be a much more MSP efficient than the SNP vote.

I agree that particularly from a UK point of view the media focus will be on Salmond Vs Sturgeon but in reality they'll both be talking up independence, indeed Alba will likely say Nicola isn't moving decisively enough on that front.

In short Salmond is a lecherous arse but it increases the chances of a pro-Indy majority even if it reduces the chances of an SNP only majority. If I was Patrick Harvie I'd be livid.

[eFestivals]

26 minutes ago, LJS said:

I guess it's possible that they believe his acquittal means he is non-rapey man.

But he admitted to the actions he was accused of just not what they were in full context

[LJS]

27 minutes ago, mcshed said:

I suppose it depends on how well he does. If he doesn't manage to get up to the ~5% needed to get any list seats then yes he's just take pro-Indy votes away from the SNP/Greens but if he can poll around 10% in some regions then it'll be a much more MSP efficient than the SNP vote.

that is true as this illustrates

 

 

27 minutes ago, mcshed said:

I agree that particularly from a UK point of view the media focus will be on Salmond Vs Sturgeon but in reality they'll both be talking up independence, indeed Alba will likely say Nicola isn't moving decisively enough on that front.

I think the danger (from my point of view ) by highlighting division t reduces the SNP vote not only on the list (where it doesn't matter greatly) but also on the constituency vote (where it most definitely does.

He seems like a bitter man to me & I wonder if he will be able to resist damaging attacks on Sturgeon.

Time alone will tell of course.

 

27 minutes ago, mcshed said:

In short Salmond is a lecherous arse but it increases the chances of a pro-Indy majority even if it reduces the chances of an SNP only majority.

see above. I'm not so sure.

27 minutes ago, mcshed said:

If I was Patrick Harvie I'd be livid.

Here we are agreed.

[LJS]

5 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

But he admitted to the actions he was accused of just not what they were in full context

He did not admit to rape, nor was he convicted of it. You or I might think otherwise but legally he is no more rapey than you or I.

I would imagine it is possible to vote for him without condoning rape.

I shall not be voting for him.

 

[eFestivals]

10 minutes ago, LJS said:

He did not admit to rape, nor was he convicted of it. You or I might think otherwise but legally he is no more rapey than you or I.

I would imagine it is possible to vote for him without condoning rape.

I shall not be voting for him.

 

He admitted to putting his hand up women's skirt. And other stuff he didn't dispute.

[eFestivals]

1 hour ago, LJS said:

He did not admit to rape, nor was he convicted of it. You or I might think otherwise but legally he is no more rapey than you or I.

I would imagine it is possible to vote for him without condoning rape.

I shall not be voting for him.

 

He did not admit to attempted rape but didadmit to the actions that charge was based on. There are orhercandidates without the unsavoury past. 

 

Edited March 26, 2021 by eFestivals

[eFestivals]

Soindie supporters have the chioice of two canparties who have bad form with n the#meto age. 

[eFestivals]

1 minute ago, eFestivals said:

Soindie supporters have the chioice of two canparties who have bad form with n the#meto age. 

Snp opolicy would have him cufewed. 

[eFestivals]

Dear scotland parties not run by sex pests or people acceping of sex pests are availablle to vote for. 

[mcshed]

13 hours ago, LJS said:

that is true as this illustrates

Whilst those are currently the party getting the last list MSP the situation would change if any constituencies change hands and saying that it damages those parties the most neglects to take into account the fact that the Alba votes come from somewhere and in most places that will be from the Greens or the SNP.

[eFestivals]

4 minutes ago, mcshed said:

e Alba votes come froe msomwhere

. From the rapey types. 

[mcshed]

Just now, eFestivals said:

. From the rapey types. 

Your phone typing is getting really bad if it's starting to insert mistakes into the text you are quoting.

I believe the preferred term from Eck's side of things is a "sleepy cuddle."

[eFestivals]

12 minutes ago, mcshed said:

Your phone typing is getting really bad if it's starting to insert mistakes into the text you are quoting.

I believe the preferred term from Eck's side of things is a "sleepy cuddle."

Im not quotng stuff cos its difficult to select twext to quote. 

Edited March 27, 2021 by eFestivals

[eFestivals]

10 minutes ago, mcshed said:

Ibelieve the preferred term from Eck's side of things is a "sleepy cuddle."

Or from hislawyer a sex pest. 

[eFestivals]

Brothers, brothers…We mustn’t fight each other! Surely we should be united against the common enemy!

Insurgents: “The russian funded scicottish sex pests”

Brian: “No, no! The English”

Insurgents: “Oh, yeah. Yeah

Edited March 28, 2021 by eFestivals

[Comfy Bean]

3 hours ago, eFestivals said:

Brothers, brothers…We mustn’t fight each other! Surely we should be united against the common enemy!

Insurgents: “The russian funded scicottish sex pests”

Brian: “No, no! The English”

Insurgents: “Oh, yeah. Yeah

You keep forgetting to shoehorn those pesky Welsh and Irish into your hate fuelled perception of things 😎

Maybe folk living in Scotland just want the opportunity to vote in or out their government.... or EU membership etc.

The fact we wouldn’t have endless Tories running the show would be a bonus as I’m sureish you’d agree ?

[eFestivals]

27 minutes ago, Comfy Bean said:

You keep forgetting to shoehorn those pesky Welsh and Irish into your hate fuelled perception of things 😎

Maybe folk living in Scotland just want the opportunity to vote in or out their government.... or EU membership etc.

The fact we wouldn’t have endless Tories running the show would be a bonus as I’m sureish you’d agree ?

People in scotland wanted to deny others the chance to vote out eu. And scotland could have altered the brexit votinconvenient to the line that england did cides evertything. And does accept its ownnot indy vote. You can't play the democrat card with honesty. Cos indy supporters dont accept the result of their own vote. 

Edited March 28, 2021 by eFestivals

[eFestivals]

On 3/26/2021 at 9:02 PM, eFestivals said:

He did not admit to attempted rape but didadmit to the actions that charge was based on. There are orhercandidates without the unsavoury past. 

 

Even his own lawyer doesnt have complimentary things to say of him bully/sex pest/etc

[LJS]

8 hours ago, eFestivals said:

Even his own lawyer doesnt have complimentary things to say of him bully/sex pest/etc

Not sure you've noticed, bUt there is no one on here supporting Mr. Salmond's party. So you are arguing against yourself.

[eFestivals]

On 1/11/2012 at 5:05 AM, Kyelo said:

The UKs largest oil fields are all North or East of Aberdeen. So the UK, legally, wouldn't have a leg to stand on. All you need to do is read about the fears the Tories had in the mid 70's to realise this...http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/how-black-gold-was-hijacked-north-sea-oil-and-the-betrayal-of-scotland-518697.html.

 

Anyway meh to that, feck knows how I'll vote!

I love how snippers do their Scouser impression of being victims.

[eFestivals]

1 hour ago, LJS said:

Not sure you've noticed, bUt there is no one on here supporting Mr. Salmond's party. So you are arguing against yourself.

You and comfy support the idiot idea his party champions.youdidntlearn a n.ything from his previous failure.

[eFestivals]

Salmond is on radio4banging on about hed takweunternational legalaction if Scotland doesn't get another indyref. He didn't say wgat kegal axtiob or the basus fioorit there is no legal basis. Can see hi. Going theudi route to please his ego itds all abouthis ego including thesexual assaults cos women haveno right to sayno to him.