The Dirty Independence Question

[eFestivals]

looks like the Salmond plan to get an indyref is to make scotland un governable. which will make it harder to win that ref

cos peopl vote in favour of ggood government not chaos

Edited April 1, 2021 by eFestivals

[LJS]

42 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

looks like the Salmond plan to get an indyref is to make scotland un governable. which will make it harder to win that ref

cos peopl vote in favour of ggood government not chaos

So hopefully they aren't going to vote for Mr Salmond's party and he can go back to sulking in a corner.

 

you are a great expert on Scottish politics, Neil - how do you think the Alba party will do?

 

[eFestivals]

55 minutes ago, LJS said:

So hopefully they aren't going to vote for Mr Salmond's party and he can go back to sulking in a corner.

 

you are a great expert on Scottish politics, Neil - how do you think the Alba party will do?

 

As alba aim to try and game the system they'll do as well as there are mug voters in Scotland.

[LJS]

7 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

As alba aim to try and game the system they'll do as well as there are mug voters in Scotland.

Knowing your opinion of Scottish voters, I assume you think they'll do rather well

I disagree.  I think they will be lucky to get a couple of MSPs.

 

 

*I should point out that my record on political predictions is pretty woeful so they'll probably romp home with a dozen MSPs.

[eFestivals]

42 minutes ago, LJS said:

Knowing your opinion of Scottish voters, I assume you think they'll do rather well

I disagree.  I think they will be lucky to get a couple of MSPs.

 

 

*I should point out that my record on political predictions is pretty woeful so they'll probably romp home with a dozen MSPs.

Salmond thinks theyll do wellhe obs thnks theres enough rapey voters to split with rhe snp. 

[LJS]

34 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

Salmond thinks theyll do wellhe obs thnks theres enough rapey voters to split with rhe snp. 

Looks like he may be wrong...

 

[eFestivals]

Excellent joined up thinkin here

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What drew me to join Alba was the tactical opportunity it presented:

– to ensure that there’s a party which will protect women’s rights in Scotland,

 

[eFestivals]

When that's the thinking of he average snipper is it any wonder I laugh at them.

It's like putting Adolf in charge of protecting Jews.

Edited April 1, 2021 by eFestivals

[LJS]

13 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

When that's the thinking of he average snipper is it any wonder I laugh at them.

It's like putting Adolf in charge of protecting Jews.

It is clearly not the thinking of the average "snipper" 

If that's what you think, is it any wonder l laugh at you?

[eFestivals]

50 minutes ago, LJS said:

It is clearly not the thinking of the average "snipper" 

If it wasn't there's be no ongoing wings fanclubit would die a quick death publishing stuff like that if it was out of step with the thinking of the average snipper.

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If that's what you think, is it any wonder l laugh at you?

It's not me wantingdowngrade my lifestyle while pretending that'll be a good thing your thinking is in the same bal park as Farage.

[LJS]

49 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

If it wasn't there's be no ongoing wings fanclubit would die a quick death publishing stuff like that if it was out of step with the thinking of the average snipper.

The wings fanclub is an echo chamber within an echo chamber. The 3% support for the Alba mob clearly shows that they are not representative of snippers as a whole.

49 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

It's not me wantingdowngrade my lifestyle while pretending that'll be a good thing your thinking is in the same bal park as Farage.

... yawns.    Zzzzz.

[Comfy Bean]

1 hour ago, eFestivals said:

When that's the thinking of he average snipper is it any wonder I laugh at them.

It's like putting Adolf in charge of protecting Jews.

Dear o dear 😔 

[eFestivals]

3 minutes ago, LJS said:

The wings fanclub is an echo chamber within an echo chamber. The 3% support for the Alba mob clearly shows that they are not representative of snippers as a whole

 

 

Snippers have the SNP to vote for who they're used to voting for.

And they have wings to feed them Ilies about indie. And idiot indy opinion.

 

3 minutes ago, LJS said:

 

 

[LJS]

9 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

 

Snippers have the SNP to vote for who they're used to voting for.

And they have wings to feed them Ilies about indie. And idiot indy opinion.

 

 

You would be amazed at how many folk pay absolutely no attention to StuAnon, and have never even visited his webshite. (As Sean Connery would have said)

 

[LJS]

further figures from the Survation poll suggest that Salmond is even less popular than Johnson in Scotland.

 

Opinion of Alex Salmond:
Strongly favourable 2%
Somewhat favourable 8%
Neither favourable nor unfavourable 14%
Somewhat unfavourable 21%
Strongly unfavourable 50%
Don't know 2%

Opinion of Boris Johnson
Very favourable 6%
Somewhat favourable 18%
Neither favourable nor unfavourable 17%
Somewhat unfavourable 16%
Very unfavourable 40%
Don't know 3%

[eFestivals]

37 minutes ago, LJS said:

You would be amazed at how many folk pay absolutely no attention to StuAnon, and have never even visited his webshite. (As Sean Connery would have said)

 

Big iuss from snippers about the wee nblue book of poo.

[LJS]

9 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

Big iuss from snippers about the wee nblue book of poo.

leaving aside that you appear to be speaking Welsh again, the Wingy the Poo book was 7 years ago.

 

That was then.

 

This is now.

[mcshed]

3 hours ago, eFestivals said:

Excellent joined up thinkin here

 

I think she means she'd rather support a sex pest than share a toilet with a trans woman.

[LJS]

13 minutes ago, mcshed said:

I think she means she'd rather support a sex pest than share a toilet with a trans woman.

You are correct.

 

incidentally, I thought your new leader put in a really strong performance in the leaders' debate a couple of days ago. I thought he & Lorna Slater of the Greens performed well whilst Douglas Ross had an absolute nightmare.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Scottish Labour replaced the Tories as the second largest party in Holyrood.

[eFestivals]

What happened to your clsims of Scotlandvand beeingn more  progressive 

[mcshed]

6 hours ago, LJS said:

incidentally, I thought your new leader put in a really strong performance in the leaders' debate a couple of days ago. I thought he & Lorna Slater of the Greens performed well whilst Douglas Ross had an absolute nightmare.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Scottish Labour replaced the Tories as the second largest party in Holyrood.

I know my opinion might be quite biased but I certainly think Sarwar had the best debate. Slater seemed a bit nervous, Sturgeon looked tired, Willie Rennie was Willie Rennie and Douglas Ross was an embarrassment.

The more voters see of Ross then the more people attracted by Ruth's competence can be won over, Ross being hidden away at Westminster has allowed Davidson's personal support to stick pretty easily with the change of leadership. Labour are also benefiting more from Nationalist infighting than the Tories. All in all I'd like to see Labour retake second place it should be pretty possible, the constituency vote is lumpier so I'd expect them to still get more direct MSPs but surely getting back over 20% is possible.

[Comfy Bean]

4 hours ago, mcshed said:

I know my opinion might be quite biased but I certainly think Sarwar had the best debate. Slater seemed a bit nervous, Sturgeon looked tired, Willie Rennie was Willie Rennie and Douglas Ross was an embarrassment.

The more voters see of Ross then the more people attracted by Ruth's competence can be won over, Ross being hidden away at Westminster has allowed Davidson's personal support to stick pretty easily with the change of leadership. Labour are also benefiting more from Nationalist infighting than the Tories. All in all I'd like to see Labour retake second place it should be pretty possible, the constituency vote is lumpier so I'd expect them to still get more direct MSPs but surely getting back over 20% is possible.

Labour leaving Ross and Davidson to their vote of no confidence thing was a decent strategy and one they can build on. 

Hopefully put some distance between themselves and the Tories.

[eFestivals]

4 hours ago, Comfy Bean said:

Labour leaving Ross and Davidson to their vote of no confidence thing was a decent strategy and one they can build on. 

Hopefully put some distance between themselves and the Tories.

Labour should call our the lying failure of a first minister.just as all decent people should call out sex pests rather than enable it to continue.

Good to see snippers still hate labour the most you can't hate tories as indy will be lik tories on steroids.

Edited April 2, 2021 by eFestivals

[LJS]

1 hour ago, eFestivals said:

Labour should call our the lying failure of a first minister.just as all decent people should call out sex pests rather than enable it to continue.

leaving aside my personal feelings, I don't think going gung-ho against Sturgeon or Independence is smart politics for Scottish Labour at he moment. 

Despite her flaws, Sturgeon is still remarkable popular and the 20-25%  who really really dislike her have been pretty much snapped up by the Tories so there is relatively little to be gained from taking that sort of hard line.

If you factor in that 20-25% of Labour voters support independence, he might end up losing more votes than he gains. So far Sarwar seems to have elected to talk about policies - correctly spotting that the Tories rarely do this - they are too busy banging on about divisive second referendums. 

 

[eFestivals]

1 hour ago, LJS said:

leaving aside my personal feelings, I don't think going gung-ho against Sturgeon or Independence is smart politics for Scottish Labour at he moment. 

Despite her flaws, Sturgeon is still remarkable popular and the 20-25%  who really really dislike her have been pretty much snapped up by the Tories so there is relatively little to be gained from taking that sort of hard line.

Cos no onebis judging her on her own critwria of education. 

 

1 hour ago, LJS said:

If you factor in that 20-25% of Labour voters support independence, he might end up losing more votes than he gains. So far Sarwar seems to have elected to talk about policies - correctly spotting that the Tories rarely do this - they are too busy banging on about divisive second referendums. 

Because a divisiveref is all the indy parties have to offer. And the snp say rthey should becforgiven revertything else for indy. Theyre even happy to sacrifice200000jobs for it. And think thats worth it. 

 

1 hour ago, LJS said: