eFestivals Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 I think the thing here dude is not to in the future put any % on something eg. The Cure, I was delighted when it was announced but for many a people, they were pretty sure off of your words that it was not. Until I know one way or another, I know as much as anyone else. So if I'm saying I don't think it's a particular band, then that's what I'm thinking. The only time it's different to that is if I know something which I'm holding back - which means that I can't go reacting differently to things than if I know nothing. So I simply carry on in the same way as I was doing before I knew anything. It's nothing like some are trying to present it as. Green Day you are right that you never believed it. Nope. I nad my doubts there at times too. I posted at one point that I might have to eat my words, which was about Green Day even tho I didn't say that. I can only say stuff on the basis of what I've heard or not heard, or aren't able to say. Blur, I'm not sure can be defended if it was after The Cure who you knew as you would known that it defo wasn't them as you knew the 3. I couldn't say anything about The Cure until the time I said it. In the meantime I carried on doing thing in the exact same way as I'd been doing things, giving an identically-worked version publicly. There's naff all wrong with doing that. If you can't get that then it's simply the case that you don't understand what I'm having to juggle around rumours. if you have to pass the truth totally for certain reasons, just say nothing is defo/it's still possibilities? Which is exactly what I did by including other rumours which came along, and by acting in the same manner as I was towards The Cure. What is it about this which some people are finding so hard to grasp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gucci Piggy Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 So basically, from what I can grasp, all Neil has done is hold back information which he wasn't allowed to reveal, and carried on posting how he was previously to cover up what he knew but was unable to share. I think, Neil, the confusion has come from you saying 'curveballs' and people taking this to mean you were lying about certain acts playing, when you weren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtourette Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 (edited) I think the confusion is that he said he was playing with people, which some have taken to mean deliberately giving false information for his own amusement when it fact he may have been using smokescreens to protect sources. It's a perfectly reasonable thing to do, after all protecting sources ensures good info in future years, but if that's the case I think people aren't sure why he said that thing about The Cure rather than just not saying anything at all as either would have protected the source but that latter wouldn't have lead to all this nonsense. After all he's said numerous times that he knows things but can't say what until doing so won't reveal the sources, so the fact he didn't do this at that time with The Cure and instead made the "94% sure they aren't" comment is what has people suspicious. Edited May 16, 2012 by mrtourette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 So basically, from what I can grasp, all Neil has done is hold back information which he wasn't allowed to reveal, and carried on posting how he was previously to cover up what he knew but was unable to share. exactly that. I think, Neil, the confusion has come from you saying 'curveballs' and people taking this to mean you were lying about certain acts playing, when you weren't. I was lying (if I take that "lying about certain acts playing" to be me posting about things which I knew not to be the case). But all I was actually doing was following thru in the manner you say in your first words - so the 'lying' wasn't anything different to what I'd been doing anyway. If anyone wants to put that 'lying' part as the primary part of what's been said in this tangent, they might as well be taking the view that everything I posted was a lie - which it wasn't. And this is why I find the posts that concentrate on that part of things as more than a bit ridiculous. All I was doing that was of any relevance was holding back on some things until I felt able to post them. It's something I've always had to do with many rumours I get, and the only difference this time is some more major things came along in the meantime which got posted about which I knew weren't as they were presented, and I've admitted that happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEGABOWL Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 So basically, from what I can grasp, all Neil has done is hold back information which he wasn't allowed to reveal, and carried on posting how he was previously to cover up what he knew but was unable to share. I think, Neil, the confusion has come from you saying 'curveballs' and people taking this to mean you were lying about certain acts playing, when you weren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 ....people constantly posting 'Neil what about Band X', then BADLY psychoanalysing Neils replies. corrected for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtourette Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 All I was doing that was of any relevance was holding back on some things until I felt able to post them. It's something I've always had to do with many rumours I get, and the only difference this time is some more major things came along in the meantime which got posted about which I knew weren't as they were presented, and I've admitted that happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jump Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Personally I blame all the riddles confusing people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Personally I blame all the riddles confusing people. and I blame The Joker. And Catwoman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcademicPistol Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 It's all Emile Heskey's fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonTom Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 I blame Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2rare2die Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 I blame Roy Hodgson! (just thought i'd get the first one in before the rest of the nation start) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calzum Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 It's all Emile Heskey's fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtourette Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 Finer than Gary Lineker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jump Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 Oiiii, he's leciesters finest home grown personality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza_20 Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 Until I know one way or another, I know as much as anyone else. So if I'm saying I don't think it's a particular band, then that's what I'm thinking. The only time it's different to that is if I know something which I'm holding back - which means that I can't go reacting differently to things than if I know nothing. So I simply carry on in the same way as I was doing before I knew anything. It's nothing like some are trying to present it as. Nope. I nad my doubts there at times too. I posted at one point that I might have to eat my words, which was about Green Day even tho I didn't say that. I can only say stuff on the basis of what I've heard or not heard, or aren't able to say. I couldn't say anything about The Cure until the time I said it. In the meantime I carried on doing thing in the exact same way as I'd been doing things, giving an identically-worked version publicly. There's naff all wrong with doing that. If you can't get that then it's simply the case that you don't understand what I'm having to juggle around rumours. Which is exactly what I did by including other rumours which came along, and by acting in the same manner as I was towards The Cure. What is it about this which some people are finding so hard to grasp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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