The NHS Bill

[Ed209]

Courtesy on Ben Goldacre: This article was published in the BMJ today

http://www.allysonpollock.co.uk/administrator/components/com_article/attach/2012-03-08/BMJ_2012_Pollock_HealthSocialCareBill.pdf

If you want to cut through the crap and get a health care professional's view of what the NHS bill will do to the NHS then I recommend reading it. Worrying stuff.

I've written to my MP. If you're concerned by what's in this I recommend writing to yours too.

"NHS is a historical aberration, built at a time when people better than us gave a shit. When it goes, it won't be rebuilt" - Ben Goldacre

[kaosmark2]

It's a disgrace.

Will work on a letter to my MP over the weekend.

[eFestivals]

it's a part of the grand tory plan which is being applied to all taxpayers spends - to remove the accountability between govt and that spend, so that private companies can steal the money while the govt gets none of the blame. After the removal of the statutory responsibilities comes the removal of the govt funding.

Schools, social housing, training for the unemployed, the NHS, the running of local services, transport & roads - you name it, this is the tory plan.

So very few people have picked up on this central theme to all of their policies. It's going to make the bank's robbery look like someone stealing a 1/2p chew.

[MrZigster]

I totally despair, I really do.

Does anyone know anyone who actually wants any of this to happen? Who thinks that this is a good idea? (Apart from private equity and pension funds, Crapita, G4S and A4E and their like etc...)

Aren't politicians meant to represent us? They are either so out of touch or just plain corrupt. Either way it's appalling. They just don't get it do they.

I could write to my MP, take to the streets etc.. but they would still carry on regardless, as they always have done.

What can you do that will make a difference when protest is just ignored?

As Private Eye put it this week:

Q: What do you call a man who won't listen to medical advice?

A: The Secretary of State for Health.

Neil is spot on. Governments don't want to take responsibility for anything these days and we're being sold off tiny bit by tiny bit.

[eFestivals]

Aren't politicians meant to represent us?

In this case these politicians haven't even represented themselves.

Landley's plan was 7 years in the making. Dave Moron presents it as "essential to save the NHS".

So the question needs to be asked: if it was 7 years in the making, it's been known for 7 years how essential it is to the NHS, so why wasn't it in the tory manifesto?

This is yet another part of the biggest robbery in history.

"Kony 2012" is another, one I truly believe is designed to be a diversion from 'occupy', something that risks to power and wealth of those who wish to be powerful and wealthy at the expense of others power and wealth.

Who'd have thought that ideas of Mussolini would make such a strong comeback, and with such meek acceptance from those who wish to believe themselves individuals?

[Rufus Gwertigan]

I have a poster in my window and some may be seen around London. It was from an online campaign that wanted to raise awareness of public opinion. They wanted to raise a hundred grand for some billboards. By the end of the day they had raised nearly 300k. I will post a link once I get near a pc.

[Rufus Gwertigan]

Linky dink to get a free poster, and some leaflets to pass around your friend or neighbour. Luckily I only have 1 friend who happens to be my neighbour. Result

https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/NHS-posters-and-leaflets

[kaosmark2]

Fuckers have passed it into law.

RIP free quality healthcare for all :'(

Labour have pledged to repeal it instantly if they get in, which is a positive step. What they should be doing though, is pledging to ensure that the impact and changes are reversed, while building on any progress that comes out of it.

Edited March 21, 2012 by kaosmark2

[Ed209]

Cameron, you have your legacy. Congratu-fucking-lations.

c**ts

Lib Dems are gonna get a royal shafting at the next election for this, and I'm first in line

[eFestivals]

there's a group of doctors talking about standing for election at the next elections. I really hope they do, they'll win every seat by a mile.

Meanwhile, what happened to the often-mentioned plans to be able to recall MPs when they've been doing "serious wrongdoing"? If forcing thru a law that was not ever a part of anyone's manifesto - yet had been 7 years being planned - and where Dave Moron had specifically said there'd be no such NHS reforms isn't "serious wrongdoing" then I don't know what is.

And still no one is bringing up that Dave Moron invited the corrupt old c**t Murdoch into Downing Street before he appointed his cabinet, at a time when he was saying how urgent it was to save the country from financial ruin .... yet asking Murdoch what the govt was permitted to do came first.

And today we'll have the slimy c**t Gideon telling us how he's hitting the rich by getting them to pay the taxes they should have been paying anyway, while the tax cut they'll get will be at the expense of more cuts in services.

Who the fuck votes for these c**ts, and when did those voters have their lobotomies?

[pink_triangle]

Meanwhile, what happened to the often-mentioned plans to be able to recall MPs when they've been doing "serious wrongdoing"? If forcing thru a law that was not ever a part of anyone's manifesto - yet had been 7 years being planned - and where Dave Moron had specifically said there'd be no such NHS reforms isn't "serious wrongdoing" then I don't know what is.

[eFestivals]

Im sure I heard about the recall that the politicians decide the criteria for recall and also get to vote whether a person should be open for a recall, so its not really recall in the true sense of the word. From my perspecitve it should be up to the constituents when someone should be recalled, not politicians with their own agendas

while I don't have any issue with the idea of constituents being able to recall MPs, the practicality of it makes it impossible to work with any sense. But MPs sacking MPs via a political agenda is much worse of course.

The whole idea was a w*nk one from the start, but hey, it gave MPs a diversion from their own robbery of the country and allowed them to mug the standard stupid voters yet again.

I'm still of the belief that every elected official with anything dodgy in their expense claims should be permanently barred from public office.

[jeanpierre80]

The same thing is going to happen in Malta unfortunately - well it has already started.....Sadly both political parties here leave much to be desired !

[Donkey]

Who voted for the Tories?

[kaosmark2]

Who voted for the Tories?

[pryce]

Who voted for the Tories?

[kaosmark2]

shame on you

[Rufus Gwertigan]

I know, I really should have known better.

[kaosmark2]

I genuinely believed that in a hung parliament there would be a Lib-Lab coalition. I felt we needed a change from Labour, because while the Tories are far far worse, Labour were getting progressively shitter during their time in power, and needed to at least not win if not lose the election.

That decision was helped by the fact that my constituency was a direct competition between Labour and the Lib Dems. Tories had no chance of getting in there so it wasn't as risky as it would have been elsewhere.

I didn't think the Liberals had any chance of getting in properly, but I'd hoped they'd have more integrity and sense than to prop up the c**ts as they're doing now. I'll be Labour for at least the next 2 elections now though, until all the twats in the cabinet have left the Lib Dems.

[kaosmark2]

That would be almost impossible I would imagine given we just had a Lib-Con coalition. The politics would blow anyones mind. Specially given the election will be fought on a Lib-Con vs Lab stance.

[kaosmark2]

Oh sorry

[Ed209]

I said at the time a vote for the Lib Dems would only aid the Tories...

As much as we might not like it is a clear choice between Tory and Labour at every election... If you aren't voting Labour you are in net voting Tory... Its just how are system works... Specially in England.

[strummer77]

The fact that Libs tends to work as a vote for the Tories (and vice versa in some areas) is why I wanted AV. I could put Labour then Liberal, safe in the knowledge that I was helping to keep those bastards out. But you all went and voted no and fucked that up didn't you.

[strummer77]

To be frank moving from FPTP to AV created other issues...

If someone put PR on the table I would back that...

[Ed209]

Its by and large very much how the system works... Pointing out a few marginals where only the cons and libs are in the running doesn't change the overall point I made...