2013 Lineup

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

Are Foals really too big now? Everyone my age seems to have forgotten them. I wouldn't say they're any bigger than TDCC or The Courteeners, are they?

And I thought that about Hot Chip, but are they any bigger than Feeder?

[AcademicPistol]

Speaking of Foals, they are one band that completely changed for the better. Total Life Forever was a unexpectedly good album.

[LondonTom]

It would get me there again So much for the killers

But yeah can't see Hot Chip headlining the FR at all, if they was going headline a small stage I'd say the Dance tent?

[mrtourette]

Just a quick question, it's off topic, but still 2013 related. I'm going to be acquiring some VIP tickets for next year, I'm just wondering what the perks of VIP are, as I haven't found much out about it.

[eFestivals]

Errr... The Libertines were being touted for months. All the fan forums knew in at least Feb.

Complete bull.

There were some guesses about them, granted. There might have even been a handful of people who really knew. But it was very far from being a widely held belief.

[eFestivals]

Ispecifically remember efests saying headliners were gonna be MCR

I never ever said it would definitely be MCR. It was specifically said as a best guess and nothing more. The news item that was published saying that is still online - and unaltered - which says just that.

Firstly, someone said the Cure was an inspiring booking because nobody expected them. This is untrue. It was pretty well known they were headlining in about December that they were being booked.

Some people might have known that in December, but it certainly wasn't a widely held belief that they'd be playing - not anywhere.

The numerous times that Gigwise named other supposed headliners (that were mostly, or all, wrong) gets to show how little all-round belief there was in the headliners being the three bands that it was.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

Complete bull.

There were some guesses about them, granted. There might have even been a handful of people who really knew. But it was very far from being a widely held belief.

[mrtourette]

Firstly, someone said the Cure was an inspiring booking because nobody expected them. This is untrue. It was pretty well known they were headlining in about December that they were being booked.

[eFestivals]

I was on about Libertines fan forums, rather than festival ones. Which probably goes someway to suggest why so many people appeared to "know" they were playing.

even on those fan forums there wasn't that widely held belief.

There was an amount of assumption, but the same sort of baseless assumption as has Radiohead fans thinking that Radiohead are going to be playing Glastonbury every year.

[eFestivals]

I agree with this, although The Cure were a reasonably inspired booking they still had Bestival to look at and judge by so it wasn't a completely risky decision.

except, surprisingly, from what I know now I believe it's the case that The Cure were booked for R/L before they hit the stage at Bestival.

If they weren't booked prior to playing Bestival then it's certainly the case that they were in Melvin's mind for booking - because he told someone at efests just that (which I didn't find out till this year, doh!).

[mrtourette]

I was on about Libertines fan forums, rather than festival ones. Which probably goes someway to suggest why so many people appeared to "know" they were playing.

[mrtourette]

except, surprisingly, from what I know now I believe it's the case that The Cure were booked for R/L before they hit the stage at Bestival.

If they weren't booked prior to playing Bestival then it's certainly the case that they were in Melvin's mind for booking - because he told someone at efests just that (which I didn't find out till this year, doh!).

[eFestivals]

I think it comes back to our definition of 'knew'. We all 'knew' that Foos would be headlining R&L this year, although really we didn't, we just heavily suspected and it turned out to be right. I suspect Neil's definition is based on him actually knowing for sure, while ours (because it's very unlikely that the vast majority of us have access to that information) is more likely to be based on circumstantial evidence and the words of others spreading across forums. When something gets to the the level of acceptance of The Libertines or Foos it usually turns out to be right, but at what point 'suspecting and being right' turns into 'knowing' is anybody's guess.

and yet there just wasn't that level of acceptance going on, even on Libs forums.

There was NOTHING to indicate it was going to happen, and every public statement from Carl and Pete suggested that it wasn't. Even someone I know who knows Carl pretty well didn't know it was going to happen.

Edited September 17, 2012 by eFestivals

[Andre91]

Better toilets, better selection of alcohol, quicker access to the arena.

[zahidf]

Does it matter if it was obvious 4 years who played what festival?

Bleeding heck people!

Anyway, Vaccines headlining O2 next May the 2nd. If that sells out quickly, they could be second from top next year.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

I think it comes back to our definition of 'knew'. We all 'knew' that Foos would be headlining R&L this year, although really we didn't, we just heavily suspected and it turned out to be right. I suspect Neil's definition is based on him actually knowing for sure, while ours (because it's very unlikely that the vast majority of us have access to that information) is more likely to be based on circumstantial evidence and the words of others spreading across forums. When something gets to the the level of acceptance of The Libertines or Foos it usually turns out to be right, but at what point 'suspecting and being right' turns into 'knowing' is anybody's guess.

Edited September 17, 2012 by thesecretingredientiscrime

[mrtourette]

I think they're far more likely to do V next year rather than step up to subbing R&L without any new material. They're the type of band who'll be in demand at both festivals so I doubt they'll be back at R&L until 2014 or 2015 with a new record.

[jump]

Does it matter if it was obvious 4 years who played what festival?

Bleeding heck people!

Anyway, Vaccines headlining O2 next May the 2nd. If that sells out quickly, they could be second from top next year.

[dentalplan]

I think they're far more likely to do V next year rather than step up to subbing R&L without any new material. They're the type of band who'll be in demand at both festivals so I doubt they'll be back at R&L until 2014 or 2015 with a new record.

[Dead throne]

Bleeding heck people!

[Vieuphoria]

Bleeding + Heck = Beck

[AcademicPistol]

Heeding Beck!

[dentalplan]

http://musicfeeds.com.au/news/could-soundgarden-and-pearl-jam-be-planning-a-joint-tour/

If this were to be believed then Pearl Jam or Soundgarden would be less likely for UK festivals, but as long as there were UK dates, it wouldn't matter one bit as this would be pretty awesome.

[jump]

http://musicfeeds.co...g-a-joint-tour/

If this were to be believed then Pearl Jam or Soundgarden would be less likely for UK festivals, but as long as there were UK dates, it wouldn't matter one bit as this would be pretty awesome.

[mrtourette]

So they're saying that because Matt Cameron drums for both bands and he wants to continue doing so that it's likely that they'll tour together rather than him flipping between the two? Sounds like a load of old shit to me.