2013 Lineup

[kaosmark2]

Im not gonna write an essay, but I think that illegal downloading has changed the way the music industry works, though not necessarily for better or worse. Because of it's ease and the fact it's free, distributors have had to come up with better services if they wish to compete, and it also means it's far easier to discover new music and bands, which is why I don't think as many bands are getting huge these days, but thats another issue.

Though I don't like the though that the artists get nothing for writing the music, I feel more like its the industry and distributors that are suffering. I don't think it's the big drain on artists that it's made out to be. And how many artist's could put out their music for free realistically, even if they wanted to? They have contract with labels which means they can't.

Btw I've never illegally downloaded any music in my life, buy a CD from Record Collector in Sheffield most weeks, and just generally prefer CDs. I think it's just a change, and services like amazon are more to blame for the decline in record shops.

[mrtourette]

Maybe you... But you still have to make the most of the situation! It poured it down for EnterShikari at Leeds last year, There were a massive crowd everyone was having a laugh and apla in the mud

[kaosmark2]

Hey that's great, you're obviously the true spirit of rock n roll, however I think you're being a little unrealistic if you're expecting the majority of a 80,000 crowd to be as happy in those conditions (and Download was a lot worse than Leeds last year) as they would be in the sunshine. Over the course of a weekend rather than just watching one band it would take it's toll.

[mrtourette]

Yeah feair enough maybe happiness was the wrong word, but whatever form in manifested itself in I don't think you can doubt that the conditions had an effect on how up for it the crowd were.

[Vacant0]

I agree that Amazon is probably impacting record shops themselves more though, but I think it's hitting the bigger ones (HMV, Virgin/Zavvi, etc.) more than the indie ones.

Edited June 12, 2012 by Vacant0

[kaosmark2]

HMV seemingly refuses to do anything about it. It'll be a bit sad to lose it (and obviously very unfair to the staff) but it pretty much deserves to go bust.

The internet has changed the music industry and there's no going back. £5 a month for Spotify, the occasional illegal download and the occasional cheap CD does me fine.

[mrtourette]

Yeah I've noticed this, their music selection is terrible. It's like they've given up on people who like to browse for music in shops and just assumed they'll all go online and know what they want to search for.

I can only assume that retail trends suggested that the majority of their shop sales came from DVDs and games so they made the choice to try and maximise this by downsizing their music section.

Pretty sad but desperate times call for desperate measures I guess.

Edited June 12, 2012 by mrtourette

[eFestivals]

As it happens the boss of HMV is an old boss of mine. And while I can't be entirely sure, I'm of the opinion that he's someone who doesn't really 'get' music, which might be a part of the problem.

[huntyyy]

Would have given anything to be at download, but watching the crowd on some videos on YouTube, it looked kinda stale. Chase and Status were the biggest shock- They are incredible live I've seen em twice, the crowd was small and lifeless. I don't know whether people boycotted them because of how high they were placed or what have you. Heard the same about Refused too...

[rug568]

I agree entirely with the point that HMV and amazon are similar shopping experiences. The only advantage HMV has is that you get the CD on the day.

Also the people that work at HMV are always almost c*nts.

Fopp is a far superior shop.

[Vieuphoria]

Fopp is owned by HMV?

[thetime]

I remember this wonderful independent shop by me when I was 15/16 and would spend hours in there and a great owner who actually knew his stuff.

They also sold gig tickets with cards in the Windows which included travel aswel.

Memories memories...

[kaosmark2]

Fopp is owned by HMV?

[mrtourette]

Heh yeah I remember getting my first Reading ticket from an independent record shop.

[rug568]

Fopp is owned by HMV?

[Gucci Piggy]

Well it sounds like The Stone Roses reunion's turned sour already. Ian called Reni a c**t, Reni stormed off stage and the gig was cut short. Maybe not as strong a possibility for next year then.

[Mouseboy11]

Well it sounds like The Stone Roses reunion's turned sour already. Ian called Reni a c**t, Reni stormed off stage and the gig was cut short. Maybe not as strong a possibility for next year then.

[Vieuphoria]

oh that's a shame

[thetime]

Well it sounds like The Stone Roses reunion's turned sour already. Ian called Reni a c**t, Reni stormed off stage and the gig was cut short. Maybe not as strong a possibility for next year then.

[Gucci Piggy]

Looking into it a bit much really.

[BTK1609]

That's just what I read. I think it's been exaggerated a lot though, judging by what I've read since.

[thetime]

No great loss anyway.

[BTK1609]

In your opinion.

Most my mates are going to see them at heaton park and there buzzing. The atmosphere will be electric at there shows.

[jump]

In your opinion.

Most my mates are going to see them at heaton park and there buzzing. The atmosphere will be electric at there shows.

[Vieuphoria]

maybe some people just love being cynical.