2013/ the future of soni?

[kaosmark2]

Fixed

It wasn't to do who the set was aimed at. It just totally lacked pace or power. I'm a huge fan and had and knew all that stuff. Found it boring as hell.

[biffoire]

Something I Can Never Have felt so powerful and intense to me. Loved it.

[Guitargeek]

You really underestimate NIN's live shows.

[kaosmark2]

You really underestimate Tool's live shows. Until Ozzfest, Tool have headlining pretty much any and every festival they've played since the late 90's. NIN haven't and wouldn't. Tool would have out sold Soundgarden at HRC based purely on a huge fanbase that has been waiting since '06/'07 for them to come back here.

I also saw NIN at Soni. Thought is was pretty good, but there were many better bands on that day. I don't understand what has happened since that would promote them to headliner status, and I don't know what has happened since that would promote them above Tool in any capacity. Maybe I've missed something.

[5co77ie]

I see Sonisphere's forums are back

[kipper64]

There's also the fact Trent has raised his profile massively with his movie soundtracking & winning an oscar, which cant hurt NINs popularity can it?

[Guitargeek]

Ok, fair points well made. I guess it depends on what the organisers are aiming for. Neil's stated in the past that headliners are booked on their ability to shift tickets alone. Do you guys think that Tool or NIN would sell more? For a large scale metal festival, I've still gotta lean towards Tool. Especially if they manage to get the new album out any time soon.

[Guitargeek]

I see Sonisphere's forums are back

[biffoire]

I see Sonisphere's forums are back

[2rare2die]

I love both bands, NIN moreso, but that's because I've seen several astonishing live shows from them while I haven't seen Tool yet. Either would get me buying a ticket for that day instantly.

[kaosmark2]

Ok, fair points well made. I guess it depends on what the organisers are aiming for. Neil's stated in the past that headliners are booked on their ability to shift tickets alone. Do you guys think that Tool or NIN would sell more? For a large scale metal festival, I've still gotta lean towards Tool. Especially if they manage to get the new album out any time soon.

[AcademicPistol]

I'm desperate to see them, absolutely desperate. There's very few bands I might ever be able to see that I haven't and Tool are one of them and I'm heartbroken that they haven't come to Europe since they reunited.

[AcademicPistol]

(seen them 3 times, and NIN twice, and it's pretty difficult to choose between them who I thought were better).

[kaosmark2]

Me to, there is nothing I want to see more than Tool. What do you mean by 'reunited' though? They were here when their last album came out and they haven't done many other shows except for the odd show here and there (none of which have been in Europe).

[AcademicPistol]

They announced a hiatus after they were last over here. When that finished, they haven't come back to Europe since.

[kaosmark2]

Oh yeah when they had some time off. I remember reading once (all though their plans probably changed since) that their were aiming to have their fifth album wrapped up in the studio by the end of this year. Next year could be the year!

[AcademicPistol]

T'will be wholesome indeed and worth the wait for the next album/tour.

I always think it's good that they don't rush things. It's like making fine wine

[thegremlin_1999]

Seen tool and saw NiN something like 9 times in 8 years. The Brixton show circa with teeth, headlining other stage at glasto in 2000, O2 on the last tour and the Leeds set in 07 were my favourites but all ace tbh (and all pretty different too tbh, even seeing em on successive nights on last tour).

While I enjoyed the soni set I'd say it was the weakest of all.

Tool were headlining fests in Europe last time out with NiN subbing them... Think that says it all.

When I saw tool it was one of the best shows I've ever seen, better than any of the NiN shows (which were fab too).

[Guitargeek]

Seen tool and saw NiN something like 9 times in 8 years. The Brixton show circa with teeth, headlining other stage at glasto in 2000, O2 on the last tour and the Leeds set in 07 were my favourites but all ace tbh (and all pretty different too tbh, even seeing em on successive nights on last tour).

While I enjoyed the soni set I'd say it was the weakest of all.

Tool were headlining fests in Europe last time out with NiN subbing them... Think that says it all.

When I saw tool it was one of the best shows I've ever seen, better than any of the NiN shows (which were fab too).

[kipper64]

Another French announcement today - around 10am

[5co77ie]

For france: Slayer

Korn

Children Of Bodom

Epica

Amon Amarth

Marillion

Sabaton

DragonForce

Bring Me The Horizon

Headcharger

Dagoba

...tasty

Edited November 28, 2012 by 5co77ie

[2rare2die]

Do it!

Does anyone else you've seen top either of them?

[CC Breville]

I've got a paypal gift fiver that says it's fucked. What says you?

Edited November 28, 2012 by CC Breville

[devilman]

So you don't want it to go ahead in 2013?!

I don't really care either way. If it's not on I save a shitload of money. Also, I don't like to make bets on foums. It almost always ends up with somebody not paying up.

[CC Breville]

Don't be annoyed, I'm not accusing you of anything. But I don't make bets with people on forums. The main reasons being that I may not look at this or any other forum from one month to the next and I don't know you.

You made an offer. I declined.