Unethical adverts

[abdoujaparov]

I don't have a huge problem with that, at least, less so than the marketing issues. I think other charities have pretty ridiculously high ones though.

Also, high salary /= high quality. Look at the banks.

[abdoujaparov]

Less than 50% of income for most charities goes towards the actual cause, that's a pretty disgraceful stat.

[russycarps]

Oxfam has a turnover of more than £130m...the CEO is, I suspect, on a bit more than £75k (I dont know the source of that figure, but if it's the Guardian article google pointed me at, it's nearly 10 years ol). I'd expect the CEO of a very large charity like that to be on a salary of around £120-140k or thereabouts, at least that's the going rate...much less than a comparable for-profit organisation.

For good or ill (mostly ill) we live in a market economy....

[Gre]

Just to put some real figures in to the oxfam example; for year ended 31st March 2011 they had income of £367m, and outgoings of £361m, of which £272m was spent on 'charitable activities'. The CEO had emoluments of £107k, and another £35k in expenses (mostly foreign trips) and there were 35 other people who were paid between £60k and £90k.

All that and more here; http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/Accounts/Ends18/0000202918_ac_20110331_e_c.pdf

Edited April 8, 2012 by Gre

[russycarps]

Just to put some real figures in to the oxfam example; for year ended 31st March 2011 they had income of £367m, and outgoings of £361m, of which £272m was spent on 'charitable activities'. The CEO had emoluments of £107k, and another £35k in expenses (mostly foreign trips) and there were 35 other people who were paid between £60k and £90k.

All that and more here; http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/Accounts/Ends18/0000202918_ac_20110331_e_c.pdf

[Rufus Gwertigan]

I don't know the structure of oxfam but I just assumed oxfam America was the ultimate parent company, and their CEO was on $318k

There's a fair few American charity CEOs on over $1million a year.

I think the british heart foundation is one of the most obscenely paid in the UK

[russycarps]

They are all independant but why would Oxfam America be the parent company?

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

Oxfam started in Oxford as the Oxford Committee for Famine Relief, so you would have thought the parent company would be in the UK if anything. However Oxfam's own site says;

Our aim is to tackle poverty and we’ll willingly work with and learn from others. That's why it made sense to get together with some like-minded organisations to form Oxfam International in 1995. Today it's a growing confederation of 14 organisations, which gives us even greater global impact.

[abdoujaparov]

Just to put some real figures in to the oxfam example; for year ended 31st March 2011 they had income of £367m, and outgoings of £361m, of which £272m was spent on 'charitable activities'. The CEO had emoluments of £107k, and another £35k in expenses (mostly foreign trips) and there were 35 other people who were paid between £60k and £90k.

All that and more here; http://www.charityco...0110331_e_c.pdf

[grumpyhack]

Back to my original post questioning Wonga's place as an advertiser on site, though there is a tenuous connection with Oxfam.

Sometimes we have a responsibility to help people reach informed decisions, sometimes we have a responsibility to help others who may not be in a position to help themselves - a couple of things Oxfam and other charities try to do, for example with victims of tsunamis and other natural disasters.

I feel we also have a responsibility to help others who may not be able to make informed decisions possibly through poor education, a lack of financial literacy etc. Wonga makes money out of people in such situations unlike credit unions who try to help people in financial difficulties.

If I was smart enough to create a poll on here I'd like to ask how many people are comfortable with Wonga having a presence on this site.

[sifi]

Nelly gotta get paid.

[kaosmark2]

[kaosmark2]

Back to my original post questioning Wonga's place as an advertiser on site, though there is a tenuous connection with Oxfam.

Sometimes we have a responsibility to help people reach informed decisions, sometimes we have a responsibility to help others who may not be in a position to help themselves - a couple of things Oxfam and other charities try to do, for example with victims of tsunamis and other natural disasters.

I feel we also have a responsibility to help others who may not be able to make informed decisions possibly through poor education, a lack of financial literacy etc. Wonga makes money out of people in such situations unlike credit unions who try to help people in financial difficulties.

If I was smart enough to create a poll on here I'd like to ask how many people are comfortable with Wonga having a presence on this site.

[sifi]

I tend to use < > for not equal to. Does /= work in scripting?

[sifi]

$300000 seems low for a CEO of an organisation of Oxfam's size. I'd expect at least double that with STI and LTI.

[lost]

$300000 seems low for a CEO of an organisation of Oxfam's size. I'd expect at least double that with STI and LTI.

[sifi]

My numbers come from a Hay data set based on 600 medium sized UK organisations. I don't have it to hand, but c200k base would be lower quartile, no doubt.

[kaosmark2]

I tend to use < > for not equal to. Does /= work in scripting?

[Ed209]

these figures are always misleading, I was suprised to read this:

http://www.express.c...the-square-mile

The average salary for a senior banker or fund manager is now £78k, doesnt go that far in that there London.

[Ed209]

No, it's the traditional mathematical notation based on the slashed through equals sign rather than a programming one. Although I'm more used to != than < >

There's bloody loads of different symbols for it though.

Edited April 9, 2012 by Ed209

[lost]

That doesn't include bonuses, which are often far in excess of their basic salary.

Edited April 9, 2012 by lost

[kaosmark2]

¬= and ~= are other ones which are easy to do.

Obviously ≠ is the best one, but that means going to the character map. No good for scripts

[sifi]

¬= and ~= are other ones which are easy to do.

Obviously &ne; is the best one, but that means going to the character map. No good for scripts

[Ed209]

Is there not an Alt shortcut for that bad boy? Mesalikey.

[russycarps]

$300000 seems low for a CEO of an organisation of Oxfam's size. I'd expect at least double that with STI and LTI.