dingbat2 Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 I really can't see anything other than a Spain Germany final. Germany to win. They are by far the best teams in Europe. The rest of Europe are playing catch up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 I thought the commentary was a bit unfair on France going down the whole "Not interested, bad team spirit" argument. To me this is just an example of poor pundits/commentators who are incapable of deeply analyzing a game, so go for the easy option. I have no doubt France wanted to win as much as Spain but truth is they werent good enough and were overrated coming into the tournament. They lack leadership and experience but I expect they will improve. The fact is thats 8 consecutive international knockout games in which spain havent conceded, its actually pretty hard to look impressive against these players. France looked no worse to me than most of the other sides Spain have dominated in knockout games over recent years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 I really can't see anything other than a Spain Germany final. Germany to win. They are by far the best teams in Europe. The rest of Europe are playing catch up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingbat2 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Depends if germany do like every other team do and change there style of play becuase there shit scared of spain. Totally agree spain germany final, which if they both play there style could be an excellent match...Pity I wont see it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) I think Bobby Chalton was pissed when he carried the olympic torch this morning. After all, that can be the only explanation for his words of "if England win tonight they'll go on and win it". Cos after all, Italy is the hard game. Germany followed by Spain will be a breeze in comparison. Edited June 24, 2012 by eFestivals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Italy v England should be the closest of the qf they are in my opinion 4th and 5th best of the 5 left. As for Germany being better than Spain, they look more likely to score goals but a lot more likely to concede. I would put Spain favourites due to their consistency in knockout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I think Bobby Chalton was pissed when he carried the olympic torch this morning. After all, that can be the only explanation for his words of "if England win tonight they'll go on and win it". Cos after all, Italy is the hard game. Germany followed by Spain will be a breeze in comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste4_20 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Going to check the odds for Germany to win the next world cup, I think we are entering another spell of German supremacy (football only of course this time) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingbat2 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Nooooo, the winners of the World Cup will be from Europe fo a while now. Brazil aren't what they used to be, and take Messi out of the Argie Bargies and they aren't the best Pele said their would be an African winner around now, I think that quie a way off still. Europe will reign supreme, because they have the money and the best leagues anywhere - no other leagues can compete. Interested to see how the China super league pans out though... And Russia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) Nooooo, the winners of the World Cup will be from Europe fo a while now. Brazil aren't what they used to be, and take Messi out of the Argie Bargies and they aren't the best Pele said their would be an African winner around now, I think that quie a way off still. Europe will reign supreme, because they have the money and the best leagues anywhere - no other leagues can compete. Interested to see how the China super league pans out though... And Russia Edited June 24, 2012 by thetime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Nooooo, the winners of the World Cup will be from Europe fo a while now. Brazil aren't what they used to be, and take Messi out of the Argie Bargies and they aren't the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingbat2 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I'll bet a Brothers pear cider that a South American team won't won't the next world cup! Any takers?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I'll bet a Brothers pear cider that a South American team won't won't the next world cup! Any takers?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I will take that bet if we can swap the cider for a good pale ale! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I find all the balotelli talk pre match dull. We all know about him. Would it hurt these pundits to give up a round of golf and research the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I find all the balotelli talk pre match dull. We all know about him. Would it hurt these pundits to give up a round of golf and research the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I'm a fan of knowledgable commentators about the game who tell me something I don't know, trouble is you don't get them on BBC or itv, some amazing footballing brains on some of the podcasts I listen to. I just find it frustrating, I know they just care about the premiership, getting paid and playing golf but in their position I hope I would take pride in my work and do some research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Found it funny before the game shearer saying balotelli has never done anything,considering Balotelli has already won more in his short career than Shearer did in his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesecretingredientiscrime Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) Found it funny before the game shearer saying balotelli has never done anything,considering Balotelli has already won more in his short career than Shearer did in his. Edited June 24, 2012 by thesecretingredientiscrime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Still think it a 50/50 game. Think the Germans will be rubbing their hands watching this. If England win they should drop jt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Found it funny before the game shearer saying balotelli has never done anything,considering Balotelli has already won more in his short career than Shearer did in his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 England will sneak this, Italy hit the post and missed 2 sitters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Bit of a soft way to look at things. Does that mean the more you win, the more you have done in the game? Has Nicky butt done more in the game than Gerrard, has David may done more in the game than jamie carragher? Has berbatov done more in the game than van persie? I do think what you've won is a bit simplistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Justice done and the 4 best teams through to the semis. I thought England were terrible today, high profile players Rooney and Gerrard again not good enough in a big knockout game. Midfield ponderous and completely non existant. The defence were solid but still gave Italy a hatful of chances, against a side like Germany it could have been another thrashing. Italy may have slightly better players but the gulf surely isnt good enough to merit the domination of the Italians. I personally think the England side have had an extremely easy ride this tournament, expectations were set at an unrealistic low level, inconsistnet with recent international form. I know its a result game but I dont think that justifies some of the games where they have been dominated so much. A team like England shouldnt be winning tournaments but I think they should be competing better with the likes of Italy and France (neither amazing sides) rather than just being satisfied by stopping them scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesecretingredientiscrime Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) Justice done and the 4 best teams through to the semis. I thought England were terrible today, high profile players Rooney and Gerrard again not good enough in a big knockout game. Midfield ponderous and completely non existant. The defence were solid but still gave Italy a hatful of chances, against a side like Germany it could have been another thrashing. Italy may have slightly better players but the gulf surely isnt good enough to merit the domination of the Italians. I personally think the England side have had an extremely easy ride this tournament, expectations were set at an unrealistic low level, inconsistnet with recent international form. I know its a result game but I dont think that justifies some of the games where they have been dominated so much. A team like England shouldnt be winning tournaments but I think they should be competing better with the likes of Italy and France (neither amazing sides) rather than just being satisfied by stopping them scoring. Edited June 24, 2012 by thesecretingredientiscrime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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