T in the Park 2013

[stuntman]

That is very true pedro! However it was harder to get a ticket then which suggests that more people wanted to go.

[Treelo Knows]

Does anybody know what day Kraftwerk are likely to be playing? My days of going to T for the weekend are long gone (banal line-up year after year & the neds in the camp site have ruined it to be honest), but I'll go for one day for them alone.

[a_n_other]

Does anybody know what day Kraftwerk are likely to be playing? My days of going to T for the weekend are long gone (banal line-up year after year & the neds in the camp site have ruined it to be honest), but I'll go for one day for them alone.

[Paul ™]

Friday according to their own website tourdates

http://www.kraftwerk.com/concerts/index-concerts.html

[Treelo Knows]

Friday according to their website...

[eFestivals]

I kind of agree getting old idea. However for me its got really crap really fast.

my take is that all the big festivals got stuck in an indie landfill rut, because that's what they (the bookers, etc) know.

That was fine when it still sold strongly, but as the demand started to tail off (which it did before it stopped selling out, the speed of sales showed it was) they needed to look to the future audience and start giving them what they wanted.

Unfortunately that coincided with a recession where young people have far less money to spend, so some people see the drop in demand as being around the bands. From my close observation of every sale, demand had clearly started to drop long before the bands changed.

Edited February 19, 2013 by eFestivals

[keepescaping]

Riiiiiight. Couple of things on here are confusing me here so could someone point me out where I'm going wrong.

People on here often blast these acts who don't play "real instruments" etc and so forforth, so TiTP announce Mumford and Sons.

People moan like shit, then Phoenix get announced, and I'm going to be honest here folks from listening to them on youtube Devilman had it spot on in his assertion of "indie landfill", I don't mind that, I like that genre of music but by christ they are nothing special and are in no way really different to mumford and sons. It's just people wanting to "appear" hipster by declaring that because Mumford and Sons are well known to the masses and get plenty of radio time over here they must be shit. While the lesser known Phoenix are "amazeballs", aye, good.

Then Guetta gets announced, immediately people again moan, "not one of those d.j's again"

David Guetta seen here performing, much to the disdain of many on here, on a computer.

Meanwhile Kraftwerk get announced *fap fap fap fap*. Jesus Christ people at least be consistent, It's because of "acts" like Kraftwerk that have the likes of Guetta doing so well, I'm probably looking too far into this but the contradictory stances by many on here is baffling, kraftwerk will be tremendous to listen to I suppose if you were in the nightclubs in the 70's/80's getting your nat king, as is they are fucking dreadful without the nostalgia factor, even worse than Guetta.

If a tree was to fall with no one around, how many posters on eFests buy the album and demand it to be a headliner? Hipsters boil my piss. Take a large can of man the fuck up, listen to music and like it regardless of whether millions of others do.

[stuntman]

Totally agree with your answer dont dispute it at all. However from a commercial point of view ( which is the only view as far as the organisers are concerned) aim the festival at the market with disposible income likely to attend. I dont argue the fact that it has to remain relevant to the current trends in todays music. What i do argue is if almost every forum or blog says they have the money but think the line up is poor (and wont be going as a result) theres something wrong.

[thewayiam]

Was not on about that, you have been caught out as a liar on this forum so cant be taken seriously.

Correct?

[thewayiam]

Am I the only one that's not getting Phoenix ?

Had never heard of them so spent a bit of last night you tubing and on spotify to see what the hype was about!

I think they're pretty shite TBH

As I said am I missing something? Is there something I should be listening to that's brilliant?

[eFestivals]

Totally agree with your answer dont dispute it at all. However from a commercial point of view ( which is the only view as far as the organisers are concerned) aim the festival at the market with disposible income likely to attend. I dont argue the fact that it has to remain relevant to the current trends in todays music. What i do argue is if almost every forum or blog says they have the money but think the line up is poor (and wont be going as a result) theres something wrong.

they say that but wouldn't buy the tickets all the same.

Oldies don't spend their money on gigs and festivals at anything like the same rate as youngsters - even tho those youngsters have less to splash around; it's because they also have less to splash it on (kids, mortgages, washing machines, sofas, family holidays, school uniforms, etc, etc, etc).

With the sort of 'dream' indie-landfill line-up you're referencing, sales were falling - and would have fallen to the same level of now by now, and would have kept on falling.

The simple fact is that all those 'dream' bands have played before (several times and more for many of them) ... and then you look at the reaction to this year with a fairly fresh line-up (cos there's a lot of newer acts), and a major complaint is still the amount of repeats. Just think how bad those repeats would be without the more modern stuff taking up slots!

[BiffyClyro95]

The Hives and QOTSA/Black Keys please. But you have to wonder whether ''Big Names'' means Nicki Minaj and the most recent X-Factor winner.

[thewayiam]

Not sure how much to take it on board but when he says about bands that could play this year but with a new album are more suited to play next year. The Prodigy could well fit this and not end up playing. Have a feeling Glastonbury aren't going to go for them till next year either.

[stuntman]

You could honestly write a dissertation on this! Its a fact that festivals arent as popular as they once were. I loved the fact that I went to IOW last year & went elsewhere with my money. (still manged to pay the mortgage etc etc). From a personal point of view , if i like the line up il go & cut back on something else. T is the closest to home so i will always have an affinity towards it.

[thewayiam]

You could honestly write a dissertation on this! Its a fact that festivals arent as popular as they once were. I loved the fact that I went to IOW last year & went elsewhere with my money. (still manged to pay the mortgage etc etc). From a personal point of view , if i like the line up il go & cut back on something else. T is the closest to home so i will always have an affinity towards it.

Edited February 19, 2013 by thewayiam

[jockthescot]

Anyone think Suede will get announced?

[Pokeybumwanker]

Anyone think Suede will get announced?

[thewayiam]

is there a hint that with kraftwerk, calvin, guetta, that two door and dizzee rascal are heading stage? just the fact they come up in the how the the headline acts fit in question.

might Dizzee be the NME header Friday?

[Pokeybumwanker]

I love it how there is endless posts on were the headliners are going , does know one ever just sit back untill the splits are announced ?

Whatever happened to just generally taking about bands/djs and there music

Edited February 19, 2013 by Pokeybumwanker

[Paul ™]

I love it how there is endless posts on were the headliners are going , does know one ever just sit back untill the splits are announced ?

Whatever happened to just generally taking about bands/djs and there music

[cobaltstargazer]

Does anybody know where the best option for getting a campervan ticket is? Is it ticketmaster or does vodfone vip have them, or any other ideas appreciated. Thanks in advance.

[Pokeybumwanker]

Certain posters are a bit obsessed about it, for this festival and others... I agree, does it really matter at this moment until the day splits/stages get released then discuss it.

I'd say out of the acts announced so far, they will be taking most if not all of the top spots anyway..

Edited February 19, 2013 by Pokeybumwanker

[thetime]

Find something I've lied about yesterday, if not, shut up!

[thewayiam]

Yeah totally Paul , i come here to read others views on bands/djs and festivals maybe even get a bit of banter but endless posts on the splits and were the bands might or might not be is really boring and pish to read

[foolee]

I for one don't think the lineup is too bad this year! With a few more good additions it could look cracking! It's the first year I've through the whole lineup and liked a fair few bands. From small print to large print in the lineup!

All I think it is lacking is another big band or two with the likes of The Strokes/Queens of the Stone Age with maybe the addition of Snoop Dogg.

That would make it look considerable better and people wouldn't moan as much!