T in the Park 2013

[frankblack]

T has built its brand and reputation on faithful returnees every year. They all bought early bird tickets year after year and in return T put on a balanced and quality line up. This year T, without prior announcement, served up a heap of x factor rejects, crap pop acts and the Roses aside, headliners that have been at the festival several times and were very uninspiring.

T changed the game last year. I don't know of any regular T goer that bought an early bird ticket for next year so the "still go" comment isn't really valid. I've had several great Ts and would love to do so again but not if they repeat this year's fiasco.

Edited November 18, 2012 by frankblack

[Gingo]

why is T so slow with a couple of weeks until tickets go back on sale?

A gash lineup like last year will bite them, I reckon.

[eFestivals]

Roger Waters was on the list of potential headliners on the poll. Is that too good to be true?

yes it is.

He's said he's not doing any festivals, and the show is too big to take to festivals.

[craig94]

Well there goes yet another small hope and T is getting a bit ridiculous about not announcing anyone if I'm correct its 3 weeks before tickets go on sale so hopefully they announce a headliner soon

[eFestivals]

Well there goes yet another small hope and T is getting a bit ridiculous about not announcing anyone if I'm correct its 3 weeks before tickets go on sale so hopefully they announce a headliner soon

I'd guess they'll announce an act (if they're going to) in the same week as tickets go on sale.

However, they've put tickets on sale in the run-up to xmas in other years without an act being announced, so I don't think there's any guarantee that something will be announced.

[devilman]

Yet more arrogance and relying on the Scottish vote to sell the festival. They're nae wise, we're not stupid. Once bitten twice shy and all that. Rock Werchter is within 7 days of T and has confirmed 5 headline strength bands whilst T expects people to pay more for their silence. They may well learn the hard way that they can no longer get away with that.

[eFestivals]

Yet more arrogance and relying on the Scottish vote to sell the festival. They're nae wise, we're not stupid. Once bitten twice shy and all that. Rock Werchter is within 7 days of T and has confirmed 5 headline strength bands whilst T expects people to pay more for their silence. They may well learn the hard way that they can no longer get away with that.

oh c'mon, that's just ridiculous.

The only way any festival wouldn't be taking the piss within that view is if every festival announced their line-ups on the same day. There is no law - not even in Scotland - which says that every festival has to work to the schedule that satisfies Devilman.

T mighty announce a band or more, but it might not. You pay your money, or not, and take your choice. That's where the sensible part starts and ends.

[Gingo]

I think they will announce an act before the next set of tickets go on sale, but going by previous years they have announced no earlier than the 28th of November so i'm not expecting to hear anything till the start of December

[devilman]

What's ridiculous? T are expecting people to part with cash with no line up. They used to get away with that because it was such a good festival that people would return just because it was Scotland's festival. That's changed now, they put on a lazy shite line up and there is more competition both at home and further afield. If they don't name some bands soon they'll lose even more punters.

[eFestivals]

What's ridiculous? T are expecting people to part with cash with no line up.

Well, they might be, we don't know yet ... for this sale, anyway.

But they expected people to part with their money with no line-up for the immediately-after-the-festival ticket sale - and people did. So T's expectations were met.

And it's an expectation very many festivals have nowadays, and it seems to work for all of them.

Just because this year's line-up disappointed you personally doesn't get to mean that everyone thought the same; I saw the crowd for Olly Murs on TV, and that gets to show, for example, that (at least some of) the acts that appalled you went down very well with a very significant chunk of the crowd.

T is what it is, and it's no different to what it's always been with presenting loads of what's popular at the moment. You don't have to like it, but to expect it to stick with your mostly-fixed tastes in the moving world of pop music is an expectation too far.

They used to get away with that because it was such a good festival that people would return just because it was Scotland's festival. That's changed now, they put on a lazy shite line up and there is more competition both at home and further afield. If they don't name some bands soon they'll lose even more punters.

Other festivals are available for those who don't like the current pop music.

Edited November 19, 2012 by eFestivals

[devilman]

Other fests have already got my money for next year. These feet have voted. As have those of many T regulars I know, many of which have far more mainstream musical tastes than me. Not that you have a clue what I like but if it makes you happy pigeon holing people then that's fine, it's stored for future use.

Edited November 19, 2012 by devilman

[Chiefski]

Muse just announced a handful of English stadium dates for late May/June, the closest to up here being Manchester, could still be a possibility, that or a gig later in the summer

[theampersanddevil]

But they expected people to part with their money with no line-up for the immediately-after-the-festival ticket sale - and people did. So T's expectations were met.

And it's an expectation very many festivals have nowadays, and it seems to work for all of them.

[theampersanddevil]

FTR I think DF saw this coming and tried to have the best of both worlds, but they screwed up Connect so massively from a financial and logistical point of view (well according to them they lost over a million on it).

[eFestivals]

This is true, but T no longer sells out in a day or two the week after the festival, like it used to.

and neither does Reading, Leeds, or V festival. And others.

Gig sales are falling too. Guess which ones are holding up the best? (clue: it's not ten year + old indie-pop/rock bands).

[devilman]

Glad that we're bucking the trend up north then. I haven't been to a gig that hasn't been sold out for ages. Except Miles Kane maybe, what is he classed as? Indie I suppose.

[thefaultinourstars]

In terms of non-headline acts, whats everyone thinking?

QOTSA, Jack White, Editors, Crystal Castles, Stereophonics are all likely to be touring next year, and would all be quality bookings.

We're bound to get The Fratellis, Olly Murs and Tulisa as well......

[jump]

In terms of non-headline acts, whats everyone thinking?

QOTSA, Jack White, Editors, Crystal Castles, Stereophonics are all likely to be touring next year, and would all be quality bookings.

We're bound to get The Fratellis, Olly Murs and Tulisa as well......

[harryomatic]

Muse, Green Day, The Killers, Blur and Biffy Clyro is a pretty strong pool of bands to be picking headliners from I reckon. Getting excited to see who is announced now.

I reckon we could also see Bloc Party, Editors, Franz Ferdinand, Crystal Castles, The Gaslight Anthem, Feeder, Frightened Rabbit, Lostprophets, Modestep, Paramore, Stereophonics and We Are Scientists. Perhaps At The Drive-In and The Black Keys.

That would make my weekend very enjoyable

[guitarbhoy1888]

Starting to think well have muse headlining one day

3 years since they last played

I reckon that's good for T

Muse, green day and killers maybe ?

[Gingo]

Muse, Green Day, The Killers, Blur and Biffy Clyro is a pretty strong pool of bands to be picking headliners from I reckon. Getting excited to see who is announced now.

I reckon we could also see Bloc Party, Editors, Franz Ferdinand, Crystal Castles, The Gaslight Anthem, Feeder, Frightened Rabbit, Lostprophets, Modestep, Paramore, Stereophonics and We Are Scientists. Perhaps At The Drive-In and The Black Keys.

That would make my weekend very enjoyable

[Millar95]

I'd be very dissapointed to see Muse, would just have to hope there is a good alternative on another stage

[gazza_20]

This selection of bands both headliners and lower spots would please me greatly, I think this is the best we can expect from TITP these days

Edited November 19, 2012 by gazza_20

[harryomatic]

Stab at a lineup

Main Stage

Friday - Green Day - Stereophonics - Editors

Saturday - Muse - Biffy Clyro - Jack White

Sunday - The Killers or Blur - The Black Keys - Paramore

Radio one NME Stage

Friday - Mumford and Sons - The Vaccines

Saturday - Rihanna - Franz Ferdinand

Sunday - Plan B

King Tuts

Friday - Justice

Saturday - Bloc Party

Sunday - At The Drive-In

Appearances from Frightened Rabbit, We Are Scientists, The Gaslight Anthem and Crystal Castles lower down the bill. Jack White and The Vaccines could swap positions.

The fun one can have with an afternoon off from uni.

[devilman]

There are far too many real bands who play real instruments in these predictions and not enough DJs and autotune "pop" merchants. It's just not realistic. I would snap up a ticket if I thought it was anything like your prediction harryomatic, particularly if it was Blur instead of the Killers.