T in the Park 2013

[Paul ™]

3 standard TITP Festival headliners, all will shift lots of tickets.

Neil has it spot on with regards to this festival.. I just don't understand the people who expect anything different from DF really.

Vote with your feet if not happy, plenty alternatives out there

[thetime]

Vote with your feet if not happy, plenty alternatives out there

[Paul ™]

Always amazes me that people continue to moan about fests like titp/reading/leeds/v and still buy tickets, especially when theres so many fests in the uk.

[eFestivals]

I just don't understand the people who expect anything different from DF really.

I'd say it's nothing specifically to do with DF.

It's far more about what the festival is, which is a middle-of-the-road pop festival for the mass market. DF are merely running a festival which is about that, and that is what causes them to make the decisions they do in regard to it.

A middle of the road pop festival which is aimed at the mass market is always going to have the sorts of line-ups which T has had year on year (with each of those year's line-ups being somewhat specific to the musical fashion of that year). In fact I'd say that T does far better than might be expected, because V Festival shows you how the line-ups end up if there's big-time competition - and I'd say the T line-ups are always the best of the 'big 3' of R/L, V, & T (Glastonbury is in a different league and T can't be expected to compete with that).

DF are doing a reasonable (at least) job of running a festival like it is, against the other similar fests. The problems that most people perceive are not within DF but within their unrealistic expectations, I'd say.

Edited December 5, 2012 by eFestivals

[thetime]

And plenty outwith the UK that pretty much cost the same as those (~£200) including ticket/travel.

[A-Rob]

The headliners shows the sad state of popular music today, especially Rihanna and Mumford and Sons. As these type of acts are going to be "new" headliners for commercial festivals in the coming years

[gazza_20]

3 standard TITP Festival headliners, all will shift lots of tickets.

Neil has it spot on with regards to this festival.. I just don't understand the people who expect anything different from DF really.

Vote with your feet if not happy, plenty alternatives out there

[gazza_20]

Always amazes me that people continue to moan about fests like titp/reading/leeds/v and still buy tickets, especially when theres so many fests in the uk.

[thetime]

I'm fairly happy, know matter what anyone said, the fest booking a band to headline who finished their tour this year instead of one with a tour coming up next year was a no brainer.

Biffy might still sub but I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't. T have got it on their side though that from the big rock sellers, they do and will sell tickets

[gazza_20]

Will be very interesting how the tickets sell, sell well and thats the way iow/v/titp/reading will go in the future.

At 38 its probably a big bye bye from me for uk major festivals.

[tori1607]

It's really pissing me off how everyone on the facebook page is saying "the lineup is shit" Yes the headliners have been announced but there is still over 100 acts to be announced including: NME, tuts etc. How can people say it's shit when theres only be 8 acts announced.

[marky3]

yep, it was ridiculous that when the acts for 2012 were announced that people were saying it was because they were saving massive acts for this year because it's the 20th.

T might be ridiculous, but the people who talk about it in the fantasies in their heads out-do them by a very very long way.

[mrtourette]

Always amazes me that people continue to moan about fests like titp/reading/leeds/v and still buy tickets, especially when theres so many fests in the uk.

[eFestivals]

the point i'm making is simply that T in the Park have bigged up and highlighted the T20 thing more than other years. you said they haven't, but they have. simple as that.

They've said it's their twentieth year. As far as I'm aware they've not said it would be a different festival because it was the twentieth.

They'll say every year wikll be fantastic, whether it is or isn't going to be. If they've said this year would be fantastic cos it was their twentieth year, the only thing that is different is that it's its twentieth year, not that it'll be more fanastic.

[Deeps]

It's really pissing me off how everyone on the facebook page is saying "the lineup is shit" Yes the headliners have been announced but there is still over 100 acts to be announced including: NME, tuts etc. How can people say it's shit when theres only be 8 acts announced.

[mrtourette]

I think it's very difficult for any festival (other than maybe Glasto) to get headliners like that nowdays.

[Paul ™]

the acts has nothing to do with why i said it was ridiculous. the point i'm making is simply that T in the Park have bigged up and highlighted the T20 thing more than other years. you said they haven't, but they have. simple as that.

i said that T in the Park have implied that T20 was going to be a big year, potentially pulling out all the stops.

"Here's a survey that we don't normally do with every massive act on the planet to choose from, who do you want? FUCK IT ITS T20 "

You said they didn't let on that T would be a big year, I'm saying they did. I'm not saying this is a bad year, or that it was overhyped but that the lineup has let people down. All I'm saying is that when you say they didn't make a bigger deal about T20, you're wrong.

Edited December 5, 2012 by Paul ™

[tori1607]

I think a lot of it is down to the disappointment in the headliners. Obviously there is a hell of a lot still to be announced and there will almost certainly be at least 1 or 2 acts for everyone, but the headliners are the ones that shift the majority of the tickets. They should be the acts that people should think "Wow, I wouldn't get the chance to see them otherwise" With that set of headliners I don't think that's the case hence the disappointment.

[Paul ™]

Infact this video just confirms that T20 will just be another year to please the crowd and make it relevant to all.

From 01:20

http://www.nmevideo....-special-moment

Edited December 5, 2012 by Paul ™

[Millar95]

at 26, next year except for glasto is a big bye bye from me. I'm fairly sure R&L will not offer me a lineup next year. I might want to see bands there but much of it will be, i liked them when i was 15/16 but now, would i trapse through the mud and general gunge for them, nope.

I think the bookings they made was great. if T have got Mumford over R&L at all and V they've secured a major there. If they headline or play glasto at all, it's a already sold out show.

[Paul ™]

None of those 3 headliners will be exclusive to T.

[mrtourette]

None of those 3 headliners will be exclusive to T.

[Millar95]

None of those 3 headliners will be exclusive to T.

[Paul ™]

(casually closes the Melvin Benn book of festival promotion)

Not even Scottish festival exclusives?

[eFestivals]

Infact this video just confirms that T20 will just be another year to please the crowd and make it relevant to all.

From 01:20

http://www.nmevideo....-special-moment

The precise words he uses is "relevent to them", there the 'them' is the sorts of youngsters who might be coming to T for the first time - which of course means contemporary acts and not necessarily the acts who T might have booked ten years ago.

As I keep saying, it's a pop festival and always has been, and presumably always will be. Anyone who fixes ion their mind that it's about a particular kind of music that's specifically of relevance to them is going to be disappointed sooner or later.

No one likes to think of their tastes as crap, and 'pop' tends to get most associated with crap, so people don't want to see it for what it is.

But just because they won't doesn't mean that it isn't.