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Incorrect.

Random accords to a given sum. For instance, you may have 70 songs from which a blind selection can be considered random. However, arbitrary has no given sum. It's an occurance that has no logical basis.

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Whatever is happening with tony, it is certainly not arbitrary. What is happening is happening for a reason, and not no reason.

Random is definitely the more correct word (not necessarily 'actually correct') for use here.

What is happening is happening - as far as tony is concerned - without having a specific pattern, purpose, or objective (which is 'random'), while at the same time he's not suggested that what is happening is happening for no reason (which it would need to be to be 'arbitrary').

As ever, Worm does a great job of making his claims of being 'a language expert' rather smelly. :lol:

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Tony's right. Worm's talking crap. Random is absolutely fine, arbitrary is fine as well, but I agree with Neil, random is more correct.

Random is the lack of predictability. It's subjective. There might be some process controlling it which if we knew would make it non-random, but we don't know what it is, we can't predict it, and therefore it's random.

What's happening to Tony is random to him.

Its like a coin, We think that tossing a coin is random, and to us it is, but there is a completely non-random well defined physical process going on. if we knew all the equations of motion and all the initial conditions when we tossed the coin in theory we would be able to predict its final landing position. But we can't, so its random.

Arbitrary would imply that on top of the randomness there is no system either, which is probably less likely to be true.

Anyway, we all know what he meant, and that's the purpose of language.

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Tony's right. Worm's talking crap. Random is absolutely fine, arbitrary is fine as well, but I agree with Neil, random is more correct.

For tony's use here, arbitrary cannot be correct.

Arbitrary requires there to be no reason to what is happening. But Tony started this thread to try and find out what the reason for it happening was. Look....

What is it? How does it happen? Why those words?

and how can I switch it off?

The fact of him understanding that there was a reason behind what was happening gets to show that arbitrary cannot ever be correct for what tony said.

Anyway, we all know what he meant, and that's the purpose of language.

Absolutely. The only meaningful rule of language is that two people are able to communicate in the intended way. :)

All the rest is made up bollocks, made up as 'rules' after the event (which by itself proves they're not 'rules'), and in every case there's exceptions which gets to prove the meaningless of those 'rules'.

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