jump Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Quite a lot in fairness but at this time that neil was talking about Paramore lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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eFestivals Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 You're wrong as well, thinking a Main stage headliner would lower their demands and play on the 2nd stage against a band who is a lot smaller than them, despite the fact they are headlining every other major European festival. where a band is billed in other countries means fuck all for the UK. David Hasselhoff can sell out stadiums in Germany. The question any UK festival promoter will want to know is this: can they sell the number of tickets that a headline band needs to sell? Kiss have proven that they can't for a festival (less than!) the size of Download. The end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lharris92 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 this thread now amewses me greatly. wonder who the touring drummer for QOTSA will be as am tempted to buy a ticket at some point (not just for them but the lineup is gewd at the moment) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcademicPistol Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 where a band is billed in other countries means fuck all for the UK. David Hasselhoff can sell out stadiums in Germany. The question any UK festival promoter will want to know is this: can they sell the number of tickets that a headline band needs to sell? Kiss have proven that they can't for a festival (less than!) the size of Download. The end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Is there a chance bfmv will play? Or is it a big no no, i know they have played alot recently. Being announced for rock am I can hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcademicPistol Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Oh never count BFMV out of playing Download. Ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Agreed. One thing though can Kiss be blamed for Soni failing? Nah, it falls back on the promoter. That's the person who books a band believing they'll shift them x amount of tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Crow Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Kiss will not headline 2nd stage at any UK festival. You need to get over this. Next time they appear at a UK festival it will be headlining. If you think otherwise then you're silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2rare2die Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 The Hoff to headline the 2nd stage!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcademicPistol Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Kiss don't have the pulling power anymore and it won't be long until Def Leppard and a few others of that ilk will be joining them in playing the lower slots at UK fests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Would Kiss accept second stage money or status? Would a promoter give them headliner-esque money, more than the amount they would get for playing their own/a european festival? I think they'd be more likely to do their own gig or stay in the US/Europe, rather than go second stage. In terms of record sales/ticket sales, they clearly can't sell enough festival tickets in the UK though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Kiss will not headline 2nd stage at any UK festival. You need to get over this. Next time they appear at a UK festival it will be headlining. If you think otherwise then you're silly. yep, i'm as silly as I was being when I said that Soni UK 2012 would bomb, and you told me I was wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead throne Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 From rock am ring i'd love to see on downloads lineup: Airbourne Amon amarth Bmth Korn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Crow Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 yep, i'm as silly as I was being when I said that Soni UK 2012 would bomb, and you told me I was wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza_20 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Kiss don't have the pulling power anymore and it won't be long until Def Leppard and a few others of that ilk will be joining them in playing the lower slots at UK fests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 You also claimed that Sonisphere was over and it wouldn't be returning next year, despite me telling you countless times that it is returning. make up lies why don't you. Oh, you already have. ;rolleyes: As I said, more fool you if you believe an out of date rumour from a website that is equally trying to get traffic on to their site. i've not expressed an opinion either way about whether they might play. I merely made comment on their ability to sell festival tickets, as got proven last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willutalk Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Pound for Pound Dave Grohl gives a far more convincing performance than most other front men,give him a stage for 90 mins and he will want 2 1/2 hours.The only other group that i can think of that don't want to leave the stage are Metallica. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOAD Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 I swear this forum is hilarious sometimes... we are talking about predicting bands for a festival... none of us are going to be spot on... even efestivals... and none of us are going to be completely wrong (unless you have little idea about festivals which I very much doubt if you are on this site). The only thing I would say is efestivals is the only one with a proven record so I tend to side with whatever rumours etc get put on the site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gucci Piggy Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 MUSE as well!! I never want em to leave the stage!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOAD Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Plus I would like to add does it really matter who is right. The bookers will just book whatever they think is right for the festival no matter what we say. It's fun to debate but to get so worked up about it is amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Crow Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 (edited) make up lies why don't you. Oh, you already have. ;rolleyes: i've not expressed an opinion either way about whether they might play. I merely made comment on their ability to sell festival tickets, as got proven last year. Edited November 8, 2012 by Black_Crow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 (edited) MUSE as well!! I never want em to leave the stage!!! Edited November 8, 2012 by thetime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcademicPistol Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Ah, nothing delights me more than you especially copying what I said when people denied that I was right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilman Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Muse exit pretty sharply and are nowhere near as good value for money as Metallica or Foos. I've never seen Green day but believe they are similar. The amount of time that Metallica spent on stage after their set giving out sticks, plectrums and beachballs and just giving a bit back to the fans was a revelation to me. I've never seen a band quite like them. After all the years and success they spend a bit of time showing appreciation to their fans when other bands just get arrogant. They'll get my money again as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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