no doubt about it, Ian Watkins is a nonce

[mrtourette]

So to summarise, we're screwed.

[AcademicPistol]

Justice is just a word the vengeful use when they want to seem righteous. It's a ridiculous concept based around the ridiculous and outdated idea that there's some form of scales and balance.

This whole idea of punishing criminals rather than seeking rehabilitation is the reason for reoffending, not because we don't make the punishment stick hard enough. It just comes from a base desire for petty vengeance that we should be able to overcome with reasoned intelligent debate.

So to summarise, we're screwed.

[kaosmark2]

We are indeed screwed because no matter how we package it man is a vengeful creature and as ridicoulus as it is people will always want to correct the wrongs that have fallen on them.

When it comes down to it if I saw someone stabbing my child to death and I had a gun in my hand I wouldn't hesitate because all I am is a bag of meat that over thinks things.

[AcademicPistol]

My point is that vengeance doesn't correct any wrongs. People feel like it does, but there's no actual use to it.

[Amy Lawn]

Texas (I think) killed a boat load of innocents recently, I'm going to dig up a source to back me up though....

TO BE CONTINUED!!!!!

dun dun duuuuuuuuuuuuun

[neilloggie]

My point is that vengeance doesn't correct any wrongs. People feel like it does, but there's no actual use to it.

[Amy Lawn]

Of course vengeance corrects a wrong, knowing that a murderer, paedophile or robber is incarcerated and being deprived of his freedom for however long makes some people happy.It may seem twisted to some but to others revenge is sweet.

If vengeance doesn't correct any wrongs then the families of those killed in the Hillsborough disaster should have given up years ago. These families want blood,they want the police prosecuted and sent to prison they wont stop till every last person has been brought to justice.

[Mouseboy11]

Just saw some photos that appear to be Ian......I'm scarred for life.

Edited December 24, 2012 by Mouseboy11

[kaosmark2]

Of course vengeance corrects a wrong, knowing that a murderer, paedophile or robber is incarcerated and being deprived of his freedom for however long makes some people happy.It may seem twisted to some but to others revenge is sweet.

If vengeance doesn't correct any wrongs then the families of those killed in the Hillsborough disaster should have given up years ago. These families want blood,they want the police prosecuted and sent to prison they wont stop till every last person has been brought to justice.

[kaosmark2]

Incarcerating a murderer is not about revenge, is about keeping a dangerous individual out of the world of decent people who live their lives right and abide by the law.

[2rare2die]

What about when someone pleads guilty and there's no doubt as to whether they did it? Does that solve all the moral qualms?

[kaosmark2]

I wasn't trying to moralise anything, if you go back and read what I was replying to.

[2rare2die]

I am. I'm trying to contest the morality of it being OK to kill guilty prisoners.

Also, sorry, it wasn't just directed at you. It was a general question in relation to a comment you made.

[Mouseboy11]

Wine bottle up the arse?

[thetime]

That was one, was a baseball bat in the other.

[Mouseboy11]

No alleged at the end?

[jump]

No, I've already stated they appear to be him. Whether they are or not I can't say for sure. You're obviously sore about something to do with people being wrongly convicted but there's no need to attack everyone who has a say on the matter.

[2rare2die]

Time is allegedly sore about it.

Edited December 24, 2012 by 2rare2die

[thetime]

No, I've already stated they appear to be him. Whether they are or not I can't say for sure. You're obviously sore about something to do with people being wrongly convicted but there's no need to attack everyone who has a say on the matter.

[thetime]

No, I've already stated they appear to be him. Whether they are or not I can't say for sure. You're obviously sore about something to do with people being wrongly convicted but there's no need to attack everyone who has a say on the matter.

[Mouseboy11]

Its why your posting stuff about it that does my head in. Who gives a crap if he puts bottles or baseball bats up his own arse? Is that a criminal offense? Its like your saying he put a baseball bat up his arse so he must be out there raping 1 year old babies.

Over christmas try and get a brain cell.

[thetime]

I didn't suggest that at all, no it's not a criminal offence but it's a bit odd for someone to go posting pictures of himself doing such things.

[Mouseboy11]

Im not intrested in seeing such pics, perhaps you need to ask yourself why YOU feel the need to go searching for them.

How do you know he posted them?

[the wonderwhy]

This is actually going to be such an anti-climax if/when he gets convicted...

[thetime]

I was interested in the case. I didn't go searching for the pictures. It's been said he had an account on a website I went on his profile and there they were as his picture, wasn't expecting them.

I don't for sure do I, nobody does.