no doubt about it, Ian Watkins is a nonce

[jump]

TBH all of the articles I've read haven't actually sensationalized the story surprisingly and it seems the main reason it has got out was because the police wanted it to for more info on the case. Tho it maybe because it just broke and they haven't had a chance to write something bigger yet.

'In order to assist their investigation, South Wales Police has named the man as Ian Watkins, a member of the rock group Lostprophets.'

http://www.contactmusic.com/news/lostprophets-singer-arrested-on-child-sex-charges_3425766

Edited December 19, 2012 by jump

[thetime]

As a journalism student, I completely disagree. All of the reporting of this story from official news outlets has been done correctly and reported facts, not supposition. It is the job of journalism in this case to perhaps give courage to other victims (not saying there are any in Watkins' case, I'm talking about this generally) to come forward and report to the police, as has previously been stated. A blanket ban on reporting court proceedings before conviction is a ridiculous prospect and a form of censorship in my view.

[mrtourette]

He's been raping the ears of UK youth for over 14 years.

[thetime]

TBH all of the articles I've read haven't actually sensationalized the story surprisingly and it seems the main reason it has got out was because the police wanted it to for more info on the case. Tho it maybe because it just broke and they haven't had a chance to write something bigger yet. ''In order to assist their investigation, South Wales Police has named the man as Ian Watkins, a member of the rock group Lostprophets.'' http://www.contactmusic.com/news/lostprophets-singer-arrested-on-child-sex-charges_3425766

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

Whats wrong with police doing there jobs and charging people, then going to court to see if there guilty and innocent? If there found guilty then people are going to come out after that, I would of thought that would be the best solution.

Edited December 19, 2012 by thesecretingredientiscrime

[jump]

My views are not specific to this case but a general one. I strongly disagree with the press releasing peoples names when they have just been charged rather than found guilty.

Its also a case of getting a fair trial, how is mark bridger supposed to get a fair trial(april jones missing case)? The press/police only had to release his name and the public were like hang him, cut him up without hearing one bit of evidence.

[zahidf]

Lot worse than i thought

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/lostprophets-singer-ian-watkins-remanded-in-custody-after-appearing-in-court-accused-of-conspiring-to-rape-oneyearold-girl-8425042.html

[thetime]

So then there's another trial, and another, and another etc.? What about in the case of Savile where there may be hundreds of victims? Judging trials together can help and has helped prosecution and defence.

By releasing details, it helps not only in prosecution, but also to rule people out as well. What if someone saw Watkins at the time of the alleged incident and he wasn't where he was alleged to have been? Or what if the girl was actually staying at a friends house?

As Jump said earlier, releasing details can be beneficial in establishing what actually happened.

[dentalplan]

They have done for this long. Ever since I'd gotten into the Lostprophets fanbase there'd always been a weird buzz about him. Heard all sorts.

[dentalplan]

Lot worse than i thought

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/lostprophets-singer-ian-watkins-remanded-in-custody-after-appearing-in-court-accused-of-conspiring-to-rape-oneyearold-girl-8425042.html

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

So how would you deal with the press destroying lives when people are innocent then?

[jump]

Was there really? Only asking because this pretty much exact quote was bandied about after people started coming forward about Savile. But nobody seemed to mention it before the allegations. Winds me up when people say it in hindsight.

[thetime]

Perhaps the question should be: "how do we stop people believing what tabloids write?"

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

Answer my question please.

Edited December 19, 2012 by thesecretingredientiscrime

[zahidf]

Firstly, the possession of images is a strict liabiltiy offence. He has them, he is going down.

The fact it's conspiracy makes me think they are others they are trying to get. Thats why they released who was charged.

Also, magistrates hearings are open hearings. You can apply at the hearings for the judge to order no further press reports to be made, but if someone is charged, then that is reportable.

[thetime]

When press have "ruined peoples lives" they've been punished. However, it's completely irrelevant to this incident, as I've not seen one press report which has published something the police haven't said. Maybe if you have something against the police releasing details, it's the police you have a problem with and not the press? I don't quite understand what you think the press have done in this incident.

Have you read the report yet, as you said you hadn't earlier?

[dentalplan]

Firstly, the possession of images is a strict liabiltiy offence. He has them, he is going down.

[thetime]

I don't quite understand what you think the press have done in this incident.

[jump]

he tried to fuck an alien from mars?

[dentalplan]

I've heard something similar about Kevin Keegan once but as it was the "my mates brother heard it from the binmen" type thing I've just chosen to ignore it as bullshit and it would only take it more seriosuly if I did hear about Keegan getting arrested.

Also this isn't me saying Keegan has or is likely to have done something.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

Here:

My view it should'nt be reported by the media at all, I wont read whats been said as Its not right reporting when someone has not been on trial.

Which goes to show what people are like by the thread title.

[thetime]

Here:

I'm just wondering whether you've actually read what you object to so much?

Then it's not the media you object to is it? It's the CPS guidelines. The press didn't go looking for the story, or take it out of thin air with no evidence. It was released by the Police.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

Did the police publish it?

[thetime]

http://www.south-wales.police.uk/news/police-appeal-following-serious-sexual-offence-charges

[jump]

Ok fair enough.

Press dont destroy peoples lives just the police.