The System Of A Down thread

[LondonTom]

Was talking about Leeds which has sets 30 mins earlier. Last year black keys would have been light as foos had an extended set, same with paramore. Florence woulda been darker as kasabian set was shorter. All had the same end time.

[thewayiam]

^{Apologies if this has already been covered but do you reckon the reasoning behind SOAD not headlining is that the demographic of Reading has changed so much that they just wouldn't ever be booked as a headliner, or because SOAD wouldn't agree to exclusivity because of an arena tour or something? I'm still of the mind that SOAD, even as a sub, are going to pull an absolutely massive crowd.}

[thewayiam]

Massive booking considering they aren't headlining... Not really a fan but will give them a chance if they don't clash!

[thewayiam]

Massive booking considering they aren't headlining... Not really a fan but will give them a chance if they don't clash!

[thetime]

the season is that they're not big enough. The festival booked fatm and paramore as subs last year and it goes wrt saying they are huge compared to soad.

[jump]

It's all subjective bullshit but considering System were rumoured as headliners and headlining every other fest they have done and to then get them as a sub I'm more likely to put them under the massive booking category than the decent booking category.

Edited February 5, 2013 by jump

[thewayiam]

How is paramore and fatm huge compared to soad?

[Andre91]

*EDIT*

Whoops, wrong thread.

Edited February 5, 2013 by Andre91

[thewayiam]

It's all subjective bullshit but considering System were rumoured as headliners and headlining every other fest they have done and to then get them as a sub I'm more likely to put them under the massive booking category than the decent booking category.

[thetime]

Whats not subjective is how big they are in other countries compared to here.

[thetime]

Both of other other two are headliners when they play next, soad will never do that.

[kaosmark2]

SOAD were never going to headline R+L despite the hopes of fanbois.

They are however, an awesome, awesome booking for sub.

[Mouseboy11]

Bands like SOAD have staying power which is why they still get big slots, Paramore don't. They're new stuff sounds even worse than the old.

[jump]

Whats not subjective is how big they are in other countries compared to here.

They are a very decent booking for the festival, but if they were easily headliners there I'd see it as massive but they aren't, so hence my reason for saying not.

[kaosmark2]

Bands like SOAD have staying power which is why they still get big slots, Paramore don't. They're new stuff sounds even worse than the old.

[Mouseboy11]

SOAD's last album was pretty dire though.

[thewayiam]

If your going by that criteria how many major festivals in europe are/have paramore or fatm headlined

[kaosmark2]

So.... SOAD anyone?

[thetime]

did fatm headline Benicassim?

I didn't say paramore were a headliner yet. I said future headliner at the festival. I do know they have played a lot more arena shows so far than soad ever did in the uk in their career. Soad's arena tour in Europe is single arena's in single cities in countries, as far as I'm aware. Meaning anyone in say Italy that wants to go must go to Milan.

But there is a difference between a very strong sub and a band that is just a sub band and going nowhere.

[thewayiam]

Lets deal with facts and not wild predictions. Name me major festivals paramore or fatm are/have headlined in the uk and europe? Beni for florence thats about it.

[thewayiam]

Yep fatm did(well didnt), how do you know paramore are future headliners? So basically paramore and fatm have headlined 1 festival in europe and uk between them.

[thetime]

you said name major festivals. I named one that fatm has done. It still answers you question so i dealt with the facts.

[thewayiam]

Well System have headlined fests in the UK before but more to the point was getting them in a postion they don't normally/want to play which in itself is the massive booking as they could do a date or two at an arena instead or Soni which may be the reason why it was canned again since one of the reason they gave was lack of headliners.

Yes any headliner who are easily headline size and getting them to sub is a massive booking but by the same logic Florence & Paramore who you are floating as huge also don't meet this critera.

Edited February 5, 2013 by thewayiam

[jump]

But there is a difference between a very strong sub and a band that is just a sub band and going nowhere.

[thewayiam]

So the facts are 1 festival between them....Ok you win....They would be huge sub headliners over SOAD.