North Korea

[Rufus Gwertigan]

There are no nuclear weapons in the South. So how are the North being threatened?

[fred quimby]

Try Rajiv Narayan from Amnesty for some reading.

[Kyelo]

Try Rajiv Narayan from Amnesty for some reading.

[russycarps]

There are no nuclear weapons in the South. So how are the North being threatened?

[russycarps]

http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/north-korea-catastrophic-human-rights-record-overshadows-day-sun-2012-04-12

[Rufus Gwertigan]

huh? you don't think the presence of American troops, military hardware including nuclear equipped bombers and warships and submarines is threatening?

[fred quimby]

So fine for America to invade and over throw the regime then?

Did you support the invasion of Iraq?

[Kyelo]

So fine for America to invade and over throw the regime then?

Did you support the invasion of Iraq?

[fred quimby]

Plus I'm sure no one has said that the US are the good guys on here

[fred quimby]

http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/north-korea-catastrophic-human-rights-record-overshadows-day-sun-2012-04-12

[Uncle Liam]

Let me ask you some things...

1.What do you make of the hundreds of stories about torture, prison camps etc from North Korea?

2. What do you think about the fact that North Korea sunk a South Korean navel vessel and fired rockets over Japan?

3. What do you make of the thousands of refugees that flee North Korea every year?

4. What do you make of the famines and lack of services in North Korea?

[abdoujaparov]

What countries has north korea ever invaded?

[Big Vern]

Russy hates everything American so it's pointless attempting to have an intelligent arguement with him, his blinded with hate for the US. I suspect he regularly chastises work colleague who he sees drinking coke or eating McDonalds.

Russy I point you to Team America: World Police for an enlightening documentary on the subject of N Korea and other terrorist nations.

Edited April 10, 2013 by Big Vern

[abdoujaparov]

Russy hates everything American

[kaosmark2]

Russy hates everything American so it's pointless attempting to have an intelligent arguement with him, his blinded with hate for the US. I suspect he regularly chastises work colleague who he sees drinking coke or eating McDonalds.

Russy I point you to Team America: World Police for an enlightening documentary on the subject of N Korea and other terrorist nations.

[russycarps]

North Korea's "demands" are that there should be no foreign troops or military hardware (including nukes) on the korean peninsular, then the korean war will end.

Why doesnt america withdraw its troops and nukes and allow the war to end?

It's none of their, or our, business is it?

Would you be happy for American troops to build up and conduct "exercises" on the Northern Ireland/Ireland border? After all, that is a land dispute also.

I dont hate america, i just hate their foreign policy of illegal regime change.

You know the military exercises in south korea, involving test firing missiles, flying nuclear capable bombers etc are STILL ongoing as we type on the north korean border right? And will do so until the end of the month.

Why doesnt america stop doing it? What is the purpose of these yearly exercises?

America are the aggressor. North Korea have said they will only retaliate if attacked (that means if missile are primed to be fired at them).

[Kyelo]

You really believe North Korea in saying that Russy? I severely doubt they would back down if the US wasn't there, the US are the only thing stopping a NK attack if you ask me.

It's their business so far as South Korea(and other South East Asian nations)are happy with their support, if they wanted them out the could just tell them.

Again what about the fact the ONLY active aggression in the area has been from NK ie sinking of a SK vessel and sending rockets over Japan. Nobody else has done that.

America, South Korea, Japan and other allies have all said they will only defend themselves when attacked when NK have said...

"...exercise the right to a pre-emptive nuclear attack."

They have said they will retaliate against 'provocations', not attacks, without "any prior notice." They have also said “the time has come to settle accounts with the US imperialists”...basically it is not attacks by 'provocation', huge and important difference.

[russycarps]

I've got more reason to believe north korea than america. Which of the 2 countries has the bigger history of lies?

I am staggered people dont view the america wargames involving nuclear capable bombers, warships and submarines as "aggressive"

Why is America there? what has the korean dispute got to do with america? A country many thousand of miles away?

Do people really want america to police the world? After everytthing thats happened? This is very very bizarre to me

[Big Vern]

Why is your entire profile set up to mock russy? Did you know him before these forums, or what?

(genuinely curious)

[Kyelo]

I've got more reason to believe north korea than america. Which of the 2 countries has the bigger history of lies?

I am staggered people dont view the america wargames involving nuclear capable bombers, warships and submarines as "aggressive"

Why is America there? what has the korean dispute got to do with america? A country many thousand of miles away?

Do people really want america to police the world? After everytthing thats happened? This is very very bizarre to me

Edited April 10, 2013 by Kyelo

[Big Vern]

Ronery, im so ronery.

[russycarps]

The lies bit, go read NK news releases. It is nothing but lies but meh.

A couple facts...

1. NK is the only state involved that has done anything actively aggressive

2. USA isn't the only nation critical of NK. The entire UN is and China is now also being critical

3. NK is the only state involved that has directly threatened anybody else

4. USA, SK and Japan have all stated they will only retaliate if attacked

What you refer to as 'aggressive' is passive aggression, basically willy waggling unlike what NK has and is doing. The USA isn't policing anything here, it is merely supporting it's allies. Until the US and/or SK attack NK without first being attacked, which not one nation/media group/person on here has said, what you are saying is bollox.

Edited April 10, 2013 by russycarps

[Uncle Liam]

If the USA pulled out these problems would be solved.

[russycarps]

HAHAH That's a good one.

[whisty]

Its not mockery its adulation