Rightfield

[Teddington]

Jesus, the more of these treads I read on here the more I question why the hell am I bothering going to Glastonbury.

Give me a bunch of kids, pissed up partying over a bunch of people having a polictal debate at a festival any day of the week and this is coming from someone who is a member of the labour party and used to represent a union at national level (although not anymore, saw the inner workings of unions and I now I hate them)

Its a festival, get drunk, watch bands and have fun. Want to talk to me about politics there, I will politely tell you to fuck off.

[Somersetsun]

The problem with that attitude is, some people very obviously do want to talk politics at a festival - otherwise left field would not be there, no? Or it'd have no audience.

For some people, perhaps, a festival is the one place where it's okay to debate politics, and perhaps for others thinking is as much fun as dancing. If you don't want to talk serious stuff, that's cool. But maybe for some people wanting to make the world a better place for the people surrounding them at the festival is something they want to think how to do.

[davidd]

I wad only pondering, I mean its safe to say he is rolling in it. He loves cash

[Trebor]

Hey hey hey! That guy has been to Auschwitz you know, he's really suffered.

[love_music_hate_xfactor]

Jesus, the more of these treads I read on here the more I question why the hell am I bothering going to Glastonbury.

Give me a bunch of kids, pissed up partying over a bunch of people having a polictal debate at a festival any day of the week and this is coming from someone who is a member of the labour party and used to represent a union at national level (although not anymore, saw the inner workings of unions and I now I hate them)

Its a festival, get drunk, watch bands and have fun. Want to talk to me about politics there, I will politely tell you to fuck off.

[James Bolivar]

I am behaving!

Let's take the political spectrum in the UK. Left <-----------> Right

Can you honestly say that there is a balanced representation of this at Glasto?

Some of the speakers at Leftfield can be VERY left wing at times. For there to be "balance" we would need a speech by Norman Tebbit (if not UKIP).

Now before this turns into a "if you don't like it don't go" thread, I do like it There are many many things that I love about Glasto, just not Leftfield........

[pedmills]

Jesus, the more of these treads I read on here the more I question why the hell am I bothering going to Glastonbury.

Give me a bunch of kids, pissed up partying over a bunch of people having a polictal debate at a festival any day of the week and this is coming from someone who is a member of the labour party and used to represent a union at national level (although not anymore, saw the inner workings of unions and I now I hate them)

Its a festival, get drunk, watch bands and have fun. Want to talk to me about politics there, I will politely tell you to fuck off.

[CaledonianGonzo]

There *is* a bit more than that - the Greenpeace Field, Climate Camp, political and charitable adverts between bands on the Pyramid Stage, the Bhopal Medical Appeal guys, the MSF installations in The Common, etc.

Back in the day it was CND, which should give a reasonable idea what sort of place it is, ideologically speaking.

[Teddington]

There *is* a bit more than that - the Greenpeace Field, Climate Camp, political and charitable adverts between bands on the Pyramid Stage, the Bhopal Medical Appeal guys, the MSF installations in The Common, etc.

Back in the day it was CND, which should give a reasonable idea what sort of place it is, ideologically speaking.

[formed a band]

Hey hey hey! That guy has been to Auschwitz you know, he's really suffered.

[James Bolivar]

Back in the day........

Things move on, "ideologies" change, whether there are a core of people who wish that wasn't the case or not.

[bombfrog]

But as long as that core includes the festival organizers the festival will always have a progressive agenda.

[knivesout]

Haha! I love the way lefties use language like this. Because your ideas are "progressive" and right wing ideals are "regressive", right?

LOL.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

Haha! I love the way lefties use language like this. Because your ideas are "progressive" and right wing ideals are "regressive", right?

LOL.

Edited May 11, 2013 by thesecretingredientiscrime

[Spindles]

..so the troll got fed then? :/

[bombfrog]

Let's try it another way.

The festival that espouses 'sensible' right wing values can be found in Essex and Staffordshire each summer.

If nothing else, the right throw a much shitter party.

[bombfrog]

And your Glastonbury ticket would cost you twice as much too.

As you believe in paying properly for everything you use, and play up your support for charities, can I presume that a charity is to specifically benefit from a extra donation by you by about £200 as a direct consequence of your Glastonbury attendance and your 'good' right wing beliefs?

[eFestivals]

In summary, your argument makes absolutely no sense.

Are Glastonbury ticket prices subject to (only) market forces? Nope.

Are bands charging market rates? No.

Are staff paid market rates. No.

Are all stalls charged market rates? No.

Etc.

[Trebor]

Eavis doesn't charge as much as he can get away with.

[4AssedMonkey]

Blimey. This ran!

The point I was trying make was that Glastonbury would be a very different festival were it not run by someone with socialist beliefs. Michael Eavis' history, ethos and choices have led to the festival being what it is. Ergo, if you like what the festival is - and not just the Leftfield - then what you are enjoying is the outcome of an enterprise run with socialist views and a socialist conscience. To say you like the festival, but don't agree with it's politics is therefore a contradiction as it's politics made it what it is. It would be very different otherwise. In my opinion.

[bombfrog]

Err... That's what being right wing is. The very definition of right wing is being against radical/immediate change and wanting to return to a previous age/viewing a previous age as better.

[bombfrog]

Are Glastonbury ticket prices subject to (only) market forces? Nope.

Are bands charging market rates? No.

Are staff paid market rates. No.

Are all stalls charged market rates? No.

Etc.

[bombfrog]

Eavis doesn't charge as much as he can get away with.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

No it doesn't

The terms left and right wing may have their origins in the French Revolution but they've been bastardised and used by both sides to mean many different things over the centuries.

It's a shame the can never be proper political debate at Glastonbury becase the powers that be will only let people speak that they agree with. Their lack of tolerance for anybody with differing political ideals doesn't seem very "liberal" to me.

[wilko8]

trolling is one thing, making statements like this quite another. Embarrassing stuff