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Football 2013-2014

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He was a poor choice from the start, United needed a big name and someone with big balls to follow in the gap left by Ferguson. A Mourinho type character.

For me he has gone because of the numbers. Loss of Champions League money, £27.5 million on a squad player and £37 million on a incorrectly used player. Add on poor tactics, unhappy players and mind boggling stupid pre / post match comments. He wasn't going to last much longer was he.

I wouldn't trust him with a reported £150 million transfer kitty.

Also reported his sacking will only cost them one season salary.

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Why ? His legacy is only stronger from what happened with Moyes...

It largely believed his genius is what allowed an ageing and below par team to win the title... and its only backed up with Moyes complete failure...

Laughing his bollocks off more like it...

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Im the same and feel that Moyes conducted himself - as ever - with calm gravitas despite his shortcomings tactically and experience wise. I do have issues with the "given the squad" comment you make tho Tourette. Think it is belittling of the achievements of your own manager's accomplishments. Moyes had a fine squad at the start of the season. He said it himself. He also spent 70 odd million pounds.

Maureen would not have been in this position had he taken over last June.

Given the significant improvement in fortunes this season it wasnt *that* surprising to hear the "sacked in the morning" chants from Goodison on Sunday. The contrast in the fortunes of both sides couldnt have been more stark.

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Van Gaal appointment would signal the "normalisation" of management at Old Trafford. i.e. a 3/4 year contract and expectation for a level of tangible immediate success.

I don't think he'll get 150 million to spend when it'd a given now that he'll be gone if he doesnt perform - something that until this week Utd fans were doubled up in telling us wasnt going to be the case with their "traditions" etc.

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Well we'll have to agree to disagree, compared to previous Man Utd squads I think this one was fairly poor, and their midfield issues have been well-known for two or three years now. Add the fact that their rock-solid defensive partnership has also been on the way out and he had some obvious problems to solve from day one.

However yes he spent a lot of money and should have been able to address the issues he had a lot more effectively than he did for £70mil. The likes of Smalling, Jones, Giggs, Cleverly, Nani and Evans just aren't good enough to be the backbone of a team supoposedly challenging for the title and he failed to address that.

I have no idea who Maureen is.

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Not sure what they hoped to achieve with the timing either. Were they seriously still thinking that Champions League qualification was a possibility before the weekend? I can only think they're trying to limit the damage that he's done to team morale with regards to keeping players in the Summer.

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The point I'm trying to make with Fergie is that he has always believed that a manager should be given time, especially after what happened to him in the early days. Bobby Charlton backed him and they have aways said that stability is the way forward.

With United sacking Moyes it goes against everything Fergie believes and it makes him look stupid as he picked Moyes as his successor. We all know Fergie does not like being made to look stupid and his relationship with the board/Glazers could be tested with this decision.

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Not sure what they hoped to achieve with the timing either. Were they seriously still thinking that Champions League qualification was a possibility before the weekend? I can only think they're trying to limit the damage that he's done to team morale with regards to keeping players in the Summer.

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