Lineup 2015

[Babyquack]

Elbow were fucking amazing last night, hope they headline Reading soon

I hope to god this never happens.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

I think the next time they'll headline anything at R&L will be the FR death slot. Considering their favoured festivals (T, V and Glastonbury) all appear to have shat on them this year, I think it's the end of the road for them in terms of getting any bigger.

[mattgimmeshelter]

I hope the dead weather play next year

NME headline?

Edited April 6, 2014 by mattgimmeshelter

[Yellow_Fellow]

Why would he pull out TDW if his solo project looks to be hitting another league of success

[mattgimmeshelter]

Why would he pull out TDW if his solo project looks to be hitting another league of success

Haven't they got an album in 2015?

[Babyquack]

Why would he pull out TDW if his solo project looks to be hitting another league of success

I'd say he will tour both next year tbh Yellow. They're bringing out an album later this year so will probably tour it. Perhaps we could see him play festivals one day solo, one day TDW? (That's completely unrealistic but dammit I'm going to be the optimist and hope )

[Gucci Piggy]

Never realised subbing Glastonbury was being "shat on".

Plus they seem to be headlining the second stages at T and V, which are pretty much equivalent to sub sized slots.

[Babyquack]

Never realised subbing Glastonbury was being "shat on".

Plus they seem to be headlining the second stages at T and V, which are pretty much equivalent to sub sized slots.

I think he meant that by now, if they're not being offered headline, they're being pigeon holed as sub forever.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

Never realised subbing Glastonbury was being "shat on".

Plus they seem to be headlining the second stages at T and V, which are pretty much equivalent to sub sized slots.

It is when you've subbed it before, and were also meant to be headlining this year.

Edited April 6, 2014 by thesecretingredientiscrime

[dentalplan]

Like said before, Glastonbury isn't always relative to other festivals, but it's true they've stalled somewhat. Maybe just because a lot of people were expecting them to start stepping up to headliners.

Also I very much doubt Jack White will do both projects next summer. He does have to tour two continents in summer so I think his solo project will be for 2014 and TDW throughout next year. I don't suppose he cares that much about switching between projects and dropping down a level or else he wouldn't have put White Stripes on hold to tour Raconteurs and The Dead Weather.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

Like said before, Glastonbury isn't always relative to other festivals, but it's true they've stalled somewhat. Maybe just because a lot of people were expecting them to start stepping up to headliners.

That just furthers the point. If they were going to headline anywhere, it's likely to be Glastonbury, due to their closeness to the festival. However, the fact they were lined up to headline, and then pushed back down to sub doesn't show a great deal of progression.

Edited April 6, 2014 by thesecretingredientiscrime

[Tobieski]

Elbow were lined up to headline Glastonbury? Have I missed something?

Edited April 6, 2014 by Tobieski

[mrtourette]

Evidently

[Gucci Piggy]

They weren't meant to headline, Neil's said there were conversations held about them headlining, but they were probably about them filling in if something fell through.

Even still, being given another sub slot isn't being "shat on", even if they do seem to have stagnated.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

They weren't meant to headline, Neil's said there were conversations held about them headlining, but they were probably about them filling in if something fell through.

Even still, being given another sub slot isn't being "shat on", even if they do seem to have stagnated.

No, efests stated back in July last year, they were being lined up to headline.

http://www.efestivals.co.uk/news/13/130704d.shtml

Being dropped down to a sub slot, when you'd previously subbed and had been lined up to headline, and being relegated from high mainstage to second stage at two other festivals targeting your main demographic, even if you are headlining second, is being shat on in my view.

[Gucci Piggy]

No, efests stated back in July last year, they were being lined up to headline.

http://www.efestivals.co.uk/news/13/130704d.shtml

Being dropped down to a sub slot, when you'd previously subbed and had been lined up to headline, and being relegated from high mainstage to second stage at two other festivals targeting your main demographic, even if you are headlining second, is being shat on in my view.

He's posted several times since then along the lines of what I said.

I really think you're using the term "shat on" too liberally here.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

He's posted several times since then along the lines of what I said.

I really think you're using the term "shat on" too liberally here.

So they've gradually been reduced from headline status by the festival they're closest to?

I struggle to see how being taken off a headline slot at the festival you've worked with the most, and being taken off mainstage at the two other festivals you mainly target, is anything but being shat on.

I am of course relying on that efests article being correct, but efests seem very confident in that article that they would be headlining.

(I tried to avoid using target demographic 'cause i got bored of that phrase).

[dentalplan]

That just furthers the point. If they were going to headline anywhere, it's likely to be Glastonbury, due to their closeness to the festival. However, the fact they were lined up to headline, and then pushed back down to sub doesn't show a great deal of progression.

I know, I was agreeing with you.

That being said, I don't reckon they'd move down at R+L very soon.

[Babyquack]

See, I don't see that they've necessarily mode down but more been denied to chance to move up at a time which seems like the perfect opportunity to.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

I know, I was agreeing with you.

That being said, I don't reckon they'd move down at R+L very soon.

My bad, I struggle with basic logic, in fact, I struggle with basic levels of most things. My repetition of basic made me sound a bit more ghetto than I was going for.

I've not heard Elbow's new record, only seen the reviews which have been mixed, and I can't help but think the bookers got early copies, thought it was shit, and unilaterally decided to move them down from their pencilled in higher slots.

[Gucci Piggy]

So they've gradually been reduced from headline status by the festival they're closest to?

I struggle to see how being taken off a headline slot at the festival you've worked with the most, and being taken off mainstage at the two other festivals you mainly target, is anything but being shat on.

I am of course relying on that efests article being correct, but efests seem very confident in that article that they would be headlining.

(I tried to avoid using target demographic 'cause i got bored of that phrase).

They haven't been reduced at all.

A conversation was had (by what Neil says) with Elbow about the possibility of them headlining if a certain situation were to come about. That situation evidently never came about so they've stuck as subs.

[mrtourette]

Where did he says this?

[the wonderwhy]

That being said, I don't reckon they'd move down at R+L very soon.

Only because they're not going to be playing any time soon

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

They haven't been reduced at all.

A conversation was had (by what Neil says) with Elbow about the possibility of them headlining if a certain situation were to come about. That situation evidently never came about so they've stuck as subs.

Did you read the link I posted? Where it states efests believe they are headlining, and this is unlikely to change?

[Gucci Piggy]

Did you read the link I posted? Where it states efests believe they are headlining, and this is unlikely to change?

Yes, and I've also read the Glastonbury forum all year, in which he has said (since that article) what I've been saying. He knows a conversation was had about them headlining, but later information suggested that was likely to only be the case if other things fell through.