Oasis

[Wooderson]

Britpop is commonly described as the timeperiod from Suede's debut to Be Here Now. So March '93 to August '97. A fascinating time for pop music fans.

[Wooderson]

Yep. Excellent point. I tell you what else I reckon they did, they pretty much destroyed the generation gap. You had, for the first time since pop music started really, kids listening to music that their parents understood, primarily cos it was a badly xeroxed version of the music they had listened to in their youth. I can't really think of that happening before, but maybe I'm wrong.

[russycarps]

what you also need to remember about oasis is their period coincides with very good pills that were widely available to all, and for a lot of people for the first time.

Oasis 1995 + hype surrounding the band + pyramid stage glastonbury + ace pills = wonderful times

[Mardy]

The generation that came of age with Oasis had an acceptance of their derivitive nature.

[CaledonianGonzo]

I'm not convinced there's much stuff from that scene / era that truly transcends it. Parklife, definitely (though I always think of that as a more pan-European album than it's ever given credit for being). Different Class, perhaps. Defrinitely Maybe, maybe.

Other than that it's probably albums like Debut, Tindersticks and Dummy that seem to be the longer-lasting artefacts - not I Should Coco or Elastica.

[Guest]

we have to thank Oasis for something...?

fuck!

[Guest]

I think of it slightly differently.

Oasis to me represented a hyper-textual quilt of cultural expressions from a generation that realised theirs was to be a life of interpretation and expansion on an old theme. The generation that came of age with Oasis had an acceptance of their derivitive nature. The joy/release that came from this only added to their momentum. They celebrated their presence in the hierarchy rather than blazed their own trail or appeared "other".

Even The Stone Roses traded on an individualism and "of their time" that Oasis couldnt match. Oasis were happy - at their most comfortable - being "of all times" rather than occupying a unique moment. This lent itself to a huge swathe of support from youth nationwide.

It was a cop-out, but one that everyone was accepting of.

Basically, you'd never have got John Lennon naming his kid "Elvis". No so for Oasis.

[russycarps]

I'm not convinced there's much stuff from that scene / era that truly transcends it. Parklife, definitely (though I always think of that as a more pan-European album than it's ever given credit for being). Different Class, perhaps. Defrinitely Maybe, maybe.

Other than that it's probably albums like Debut, Tindersticks and Dummy that seem to be the longer-lasting artefacts - not I Should Coco or Elastica.

[CaledonianGonzo]

ok computer?

[russycarps]

Would you class that as Britpop?

[CaledonianGonzo]

In which case, it's a pretty broad church.

Though I hear the swinging, 60s-inspired sounds of Climbing Up The Walls always went down well in The Good Mixer.

[Ed209]

I wouldn't say OK Computer was britpop at all. I hate getting all w*nkey with labels but I would put it down as being one of the first post-britpop or anti-britpop albums. Its an album that went a long way to killing britpop off.

[mrtourette]

I thought that was Be Here Now.

[Guest]

isn't 'britpop' one of the more meaningless names. It doesn't represent any musical 'style' at all.

[russycarps]

I wouldn't say OK Computer was britpop at all. I hate getting all w*nkey with labels but I would put it down as being one of the first post-britpop or anti-britpop albums. Its an album that went a long way to killing britpop off.

[Ed209]

I thought that was Be Here Now.

[russycarps]

isn't 'britpop' one of the more meaningless names. It doesn't represent any musical 'style' at all.

[Guest]

britpop = music from british guitar bands that released their first album in the 90s

[mrtourette]

isn't 'britpop' one of the more meaningless names. It doesn't represent any musical 'style' at all.

[Ed209]

britpop = music from british guitar bands that released their first album in the 90s

[The Nal]

They were released within a few weeks of eachother. One was the ugly cocaine fulled mess that the excesses and hype of britpop had become.

[mrtourette]

They were released within a few weeks of eachother. One was the ugly cocaine fulled mess that the excesses and hype of britpop had become.

The other showed a new path for british guitar bands to follow. They were polar opposites in their sound but helped achieve the same goal.

[mrtourette]

Curse you The Nal.

[russycarps]

Blur and Pulp weren't part of britpop then?

[The Nal]

Curse you The Nal.