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The thing is, J10's rating for 2011 was something like 6/10, which is close to what it is now. If you look through the netweather forum people were saying until quite close to the festival that it wasn't going to be a washout. The word washout is a vague term, but it was pretty damn muddy in 2011 until it dried up on the sunday.

I think the difference between 2011 and 2008/2009/2013 was that:

1) there was more than one rainy day
2) it had been raining in the run up to the festival so the ground was already saturated

It looks pretty certain than 2 is not going to be the case this year. We'll just have to hope 1 doesn't happen either.

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UK Outlook for Tuesday 24 Jun 2014 to Thursday 3 Jul 2014:

High pressure will continue to bring fine and dry weather to many parts through Tuesday and Wednesday with good spells of sunshine, especially in the south and southwest. It will be cloudier in the north with showery rain over Scotland, particularly the northwest where locally heavy, and this may move southwards across eastern areas later. Feeling warm in the sunshine and perhaps very warm in the south, but somewhat cooler in the north. From Thursday onwards, however, high pressure is likely to decline allowing more changeable conditions with cloud and rain pushing in across western and northwestern parts. However, southeastern parts may hang on to the dry and fine weather until the weekend. Most likely remaining changeable into the following week with occasional rain interspersed with drier spells.

Updated: 1214 on Thu 19 Jun 2014

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The thing is, J10's rating for 2011 was something like 6/10, which is close to what it is now. If you look through the netweather forum people were saying until quite close to the festival that it wasn't going to be a washout. The word washout is a vague term, but it was pretty damn muddy in 2011 until it dried up on the sunday.

I think the difference between 2011 and 2008/2009/2013 was that:

1) there was more than one rainy day

2) it had been raining in the run up to the festival so the ground was already saturated

It looks pretty certain than 2 is not going to be the case this year. We'll just have to hope 1 doesn't happen either.

The worst thing that happened on 2011 was that it biblically shat it down from about 10am for an hour on already soft/damp ground when the majority of people were walking into the site and it churned it up from the offset. Didn't recover from that all festival really. It's been much hotter and drier this year leading up that even last year.

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Latest from the MET

UK Outlook for Tuesday 24 Jun 2014 to Thursday 3 Jul 2014:

High pressure will continue to bring fine and dry weather to many parts through Tuesday and Wednesday with good spells of sunshine, especially in the south and southwest. It will be cloudier in the north with showery rain over Scotland, particularly the northwest where locally heavy, and this may move southwards across eastern areas later. Feeling warm in the sunshine and perhaps very warm in the south, but somewhat cooler in the north. From Thursday onwards, however, high pressure is likely to decline allowing more changeable conditions with cloud and rain pushing in across western and northwestern parts. However, southeastern parts may hang on to the dry and fine weather until the weekend. Most likely remaining changeable into the following week with occasional rain interspersed with drier spells.

Updated: 1214 on Thu 19 Jun 2014

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What the hell is wrong with that????

Do people really expect it to be all nice and fluffy and no rain or wind and no cloud and be perfect?

Get a grip, the weather's going to change, it's going to rain at some point. Take waterproofs and wellies and carry on.

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What the hell is wrong with that????

Do people really expect it to be all nice and fluffy and no rain or wind and no cloud and be perfect?

Get a grip, the weather's going to change, it's going to rain at some point. Take waterproofs and wellies and carry on.

It didn't in 2010. Very nice and fluffy indeed.

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What the hell is wrong with that????

Do people really expect it to be all nice and fluffy and no rain or wind and no cloud and be perfect?

Get a grip, the weather's going to change, it's going to rain at some point. Take waterproofs and wellies and carry on.

It has been pretty much like that for the last couple of weeks though!

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So long range forecasting is based not on anything specifically measurable, so much as on computer models of what tends to happen after what we are currently experiencing. Not only might the current observation be imperfect, but so might the modelling system.

Perhaps then the only real issue is the prevalent weather conditions, which are okish.

2007, as I recall, was unsettled and cold leading up to the festival, which meant the best we were ever going to get was a window of fair weather (with we didn't). This time, it may rain a bit, or even a bit more than a bit, but the prevailing conditions are warm, and the ground will more easily drain. There's really no comparison.

Frankly, I can't see what can possibly go wrong.

The way I understand it, it's like if you lived in a small town, and someone types everyone's routines into a computer over a few years, and then used that to run a simulation as to what would happen in that town in the future.

Now, if one person on one day tripped over, it would have a cascade effect- they might miss their bus, so the people at their office had to change their routine to accommodate the late worker, which in turn affects their routines and the people they are scheduled to interact with, and so on, so the model gets more and more inaccurate with every passing minute, hour and day.

So that's why long range forecasts are so unreliable- it's basically like chaos theory whereby the slightest change has a cascade effect that messes up everything.

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It has been pretty much like that for the last couple of weeks though!

Yes too warm and fluffy for a festival.

Bit of rain, cloud n sun would be perfect.

I knew the day they announced a mini heat wave that it woukd almost definitely change in time for Glastonbury,. And guess what? It is and it's changing for the worse.

Read all the positive comments and people in the know how. It's gonna be fine

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Looking at cumaltive rainfall it doesn't look that bad, the difference between 2011 and this year is that in 2011 the ground was saturated before anyone turned up & the rain on the Friday went on for hours which some really heavy spells. I'm certain we knew at this stage to expect to be wearing wellies the whole time.

Anyway there is a slight glimmer of hope in the latest ECMWF run, But right now I'm cautiously sceptical and labelling it an outlier.

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We'll just have to hope 1 doesn't happen either.

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That's what we thought in 2005...

Exactly. It only rained for two hours!

Jesus we're fucked this is a disaster. Low pressure moving in and rain every day!

At best its going to be like this all weekend.

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Exactly. It only rained for two hours!

Jesus we're fucked this is a disaster. Low pressure moving in and rain every day!

At best its going to be like this all weekend.

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I appreciate your attempts to engineer a reverse-jinx!

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Exactly. It only rained for two hours!

Jesus we're fucked this is a disaster. Low pressure moving in and rain every day!

At best its going to be like this all weekend.

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Hark at Punxsutawny Phil here! Prognosticator of prognosticators!!!!!!

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Nothing is certain here chief.

- 2005 is storm of the decade kinda stuff

- 2007 was vile for 8 weeks leading up to the fest

If anything this reminds me of 2008/2009 which was more than tolerable.

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