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oh right that's an interesting perspective :) absence makes the heart grow fonder sort of thing then?

Also a case of the NME painting this myth around them, kids in the 2000s turned to the internet instead of buying the NME, NME tried to keep hold of the grown-up 90s kids, 2000s kids who actually were reading the NME picked up on it too, so they were introduced to another generation. The allure of them as a classic band kept the appeal around, kept them earning new fans, and they weren't around to disgrace themselves.

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Arcade Fire and Kasabian alt-rock? never heard them described as that before

Indie rock and alt-rock are one and the same aren't they? I dunno.

not as different as U2 and Beyonce though, surely :sarcastic:

I didn't even bring genres into it. I was talking about the kind of people they, and Coldplay, appeal to and it's hard to describe such a person without being condescending or offensive.

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Maybe not thrilling to the tastes of a teenage R&L-fest goer okay but a trio of dad-rock/pop-rock/R&B is throwing the net pretty wide. Especially compared to 2014 and the trio what was suggested in the post I were responding to

1. I go to Glastonbury instead of R&L because of the fact I think R&L lineups are awful and Glastonbury lineups are more suitable to my tastes, so not really an R&L goer. There were about 3 acts on this year's R&L main stage I'd have paid money to see.

2. There are a fuckload of R&L type goers at Glastonbury who wouldn't be pleased with any of those headliners, and also a load of people like myself who wouldn't be pleased with any of those headliners.

U2, Beyonce and Coldplay appeal to middle aged people and V fest goers.

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i tend to think of alt-rock as stuff a little heavier, but i guess in the grand scheme of things it's pretty much the same, yeah

Yeah when I think alt. rock I think of bands ranging from Pixies/Smashing Pumpkins/Manics through to NIN, etc.

Then again I'd probably class bands like Radiohead and Sigur Ros as alt. rock so I dunno really.

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1. I go to Glastonbury instead of R&L because of the fact I think R&L lineups are awful and Glastonbury lineups are more suitable to my tastes, so not really an R&L goer. There were about 3 acts on this year's R&L main stage I'd have paid money to see.

I apologise.

2. There are a fuckload of R&L type goers at Glastonbury who wouldn't be pleased with any of those headliners

And there are a lot more people who'd be delighted with them. I've already admitted that that trio wouldn't appeal to *everyone*, because appealing to *everyone* is an impossible task, so I don't know why this is especially relevant other than to backup my point that the main disaffected people would be typical R&L-goers..

U2, Beyonce and Coldplay appeal to middle aged people and V fest goers.

Why were Coldplay deemed suitable for Radio 1's Big Weekend this year if they don't have a large number of younger fans? Or are they supposed to be falling under the 'V Fest goers' category despite the fact they haven't played V since 2003? :P

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And there are a lot more people who'd be delighted with them. I've already admitted that that trio wouldn't appeal to *everyone*, because appealing to *everyone* is an impossible task, so I don't know why this is especially relevant other than to backup my point that the main disaffected people would be typical R&L-goers..

Why were Coldplay deemed suitable for Radio 1's Big Weekend this year if they don't have a large number of younger fans? Or are they supposed to be falling under the 'V Fest goers' category despite the fact they haven't played V since 2003? :P

Fair enough, I agree it's not possible to appeal to everyone, I just don't think 2011 achieved that much better than other years.

Come on, even if they haven't played V, it's ludicrous to suggest they're not a very V fest oriented band.

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Come on, even if they haven't played V, it's ludicrous to suggest they're not a very V fest oriented band.

they suit V in the sense that they're very very very mainstream and have a ridiculously wide-appeal pretty much unmatched by any band on the planet yeah...which is why they repeatedly do such a good job of appealing to a hell of a lot of Glasto goers and which is why they're so much stronger as a booking than any of 2014's headliners ;):P

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the majority of people that go to glastonbury would prefer

-FF,coldplay,beyonce,taylor swift,muse,U2

over

-sigur ros, radiohead, neil young...

not saying thats right or not or what my point is, but there you go..

Pfft Muse are not in that same bracket. (I'd even say to an extent Foo's are not either....certaintly edge towards it but not quite)

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