FloorFiller Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Arcade Fire and Kasabian alt-rock? never heard them described as that before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy Lawn Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 oh right that's an interesting perspective absence makes the heart grow fonder sort of thing then? Also a case of the NME painting this myth around them, kids in the 2000s turned to the internet instead of buying the NME, NME tried to keep hold of the grown-up 90s kids, 2000s kids who actually were reading the NME picked up on it too, so they were introduced to another generation. The allure of them as a classic band kept the appeal around, kept them earning new fans, and they weren't around to disgrace themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose-Colored Boy Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Arcade Fire and Kasabian fall under the same large banner but they are very different. not as different as U2 and Beyonce though, surely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael eavis' beard Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Me neither. I was gonna try the resale that year but bailed when I saw that. 2011: Primal Scream - Chems - Kool and the Gang. Brilliant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 ~*~aLt RoCk~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Arcade Fire and Kasabian alt-rock? never heard them described as that before Indie rock and alt-rock are one and the same aren't they? I dunno. not as different as U2 and Beyonce though, surely I didn't even bring genres into it. I was talking about the kind of people they, and Coldplay, appeal to and it's hard to describe such a person without being condescending or offensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloorFiller Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Indie rock and alt-rock are one and the same aren't they? I dunno. i tend to think of alt-rock as stuff a little heavier, but i guess in the grand scheme of things it's pretty much the same, yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gucci Piggy Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Maybe not thrilling to the tastes of a teenage R&L-fest goer okay but a trio of dad-rock/pop-rock/R&B is throwing the net pretty wide. Especially compared to 2014 and the trio what was suggested in the post I were responding to 1. I go to Glastonbury instead of R&L because of the fact I think R&L lineups are awful and Glastonbury lineups are more suitable to my tastes, so not really an R&L goer. There were about 3 acts on this year's R&L main stage I'd have paid money to see. 2. There are a fuckload of R&L type goers at Glastonbury who wouldn't be pleased with any of those headliners, and also a load of people like myself who wouldn't be pleased with any of those headliners. U2, Beyonce and Coldplay appeal to middle aged people and V fest goers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gucci Piggy Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 i tend to think of alt-rock as stuff a little heavier, but i guess in the grand scheme of things it's pretty much the same, yeah Yeah when I think alt. rock I think of bands ranging from Pixies/Smashing Pumpkins/Manics through to NIN, etc. Then again I'd probably class bands like Radiohead and Sigur Ros as alt. rock so I dunno really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 U2, Beyonce and Coldplay appeal to middle aged people and V fest goers. > implying a large proportion of glastonbury goes don't come under these categories > implying there is not allowed to be overlap between festivals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 > implying a large proportion of glastonbury goes don't come under these categories > implying there is not allowed to be overlap between festivals That's not the argument being discussed. And this ain't the place for green text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gucci Piggy Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 > implying a large proportion of glastonbury goes don't come under these categories > implying there is not allowed to be overlap between festivals I know it covers a wide range of the audience; my point was that there's a massive section of attendees not catered for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 I know it covers a wide range of the audience; my point was that there's a massive section of attendees not catered for. It's pretty difficult to cater to every single large group of people with just 3 headliners, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose-Colored Boy Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 (edited) 1. I go to Glastonbury instead of R&L because of the fact I think R&L lineups are awful and Glastonbury lineups are more suitable to my tastes, so not really an R&L goer. There were about 3 acts on this year's R&L main stage I'd have paid money to see. I apologise. 2. There are a fuckload of R&L type goers at Glastonbury who wouldn't be pleased with any of those headliners And there are a lot more people who'd be delighted with them. I've already admitted that that trio wouldn't appeal to *everyone*, because appealing to *everyone* is an impossible task, so I don't know why this is especially relevant other than to backup my point that the main disaffected people would be typical R&L-goers.. U2, Beyonce and Coldplay appeal to middle aged people and V fest goers. Why were Coldplay deemed suitable for Radio 1's Big Weekend this year if they don't have a large number of younger fans? Or are they supposed to be falling under the 'V Fest goers' category despite the fact they haven't played V since 2003? Edited November 12, 2014 by Zac Quinn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil999 Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 the majority of people that go to glastonbury would prefer -FF,coldplay,beyonce,taylor swift,muse,U2 over -sigur ros, radiohead, neil young... not saying thats right or not or what my point is, but there you go.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gucci Piggy Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 And there are a lot more people who'd be delighted with them. I've already admitted that that trio wouldn't appeal to *everyone*, because appealing to *everyone* is an impossible task, so I don't know why this is especially relevant other than to backup my point that the main disaffected people would be typical R&L-goers.. Why were Coldplay deemed suitable for Radio 1's Big Weekend this year if they don't have a large number of younger fans? Or are they supposed to be falling under the 'V Fest goers' category despite the fact they haven't played V since 2003? Fair enough, I agree it's not possible to appeal to everyone, I just don't think 2011 achieved that much better than other years. Come on, even if they haven't played V, it's ludicrous to suggest they're not a very V fest oriented band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose-Colored Boy Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 (edited) Come on, even if they haven't played V, it's ludicrous to suggest they're not a very V fest oriented band. they suit V in the sense that they're very very very mainstream and have a ridiculously wide-appeal pretty much unmatched by any band on the planet yeah...which is why they repeatedly do such a good job of appealing to a hell of a lot of Glasto goers and which is why they're so much stronger as a booking than any of 2014's headliners Edited November 12, 2014 by Zac Quinn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russycarps Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 the majority of people that go to glastonbury would prefer -FF,coldplay,beyonce,taylor swift,muse,U2 over -sigur ros, radiohead, neil young... not saying thats right or not or what my point is, but there you go.. possibly the most depressing thing ever written on these forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil999 Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 (edited) possibly the most depressing thing ever written on these forums. indeed, true tho isnt it.. this is why glastonbury is going for these acts, surely? oh well! Edited November 12, 2014 by neil999 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russycarps Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 indeed, true tho isnt it.. this is why glastonbury is going for these acts, surely? oh well! yep I wasnt disagreeing with you! Oh well, me and the pyramid headliners had a good innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 yep I wasnt disagreeing with you! Oh well, me and the pyramid headliners had a good innings. Just out of the interest, you've been to glasto quite a few times how many pyramid headliners have you seen? Has there ever been a year where you've seen 2 / 3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil999 Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 yep I wasnt disagreeing with you! Oh well, me and the pyramid headliners had a good innings. haha, its almost splitting into two festivals with the park area getting more prominence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonTom Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 the majority of people that go to glastonbury would prefer -FF,coldplay,beyonce,taylor swift,muse,U2 over -sigur ros, radiohead, neil young... not saying thats right or not or what my point is, but there you go.. Pfft Muse are not in that same bracket. (I'd even say to an extent Foo's are not either....certaintly edge towards it but not quite) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russycarps Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Just out of the interest, you've been to glasto quite a few times how many pyramid headliners have you seen? Has there ever been a year where you've seen 2 / 3? I love pyramid headliners! I saw 2 in 2009 and 2008. All 3 in 2003. There havent been many years where I havent seen 1 at all. 2007 I didnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil999 Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Pfft Muse are not in that same bracket. (I'd even say to an extent Foo's are not either....certaintly edge towards it but not quite) i dint think about the list too much tbh! was just too highlight a point, that commercial music is now waaayy more important than credibility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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