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I have sad news. My Mum passed away this afternoon.She died peacefully in hospital.I'd be pleased if you would all have a drink in her honour at Glastonbury, any time, any place.Your discussions with me over the last few months have helped me to cope with the inevitable. Thanks guys.Now bring on the rest of the line up!

So sorry to hear this Martin - sending you & your loved ones love at this horrible time xx

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I think that if Noel is playing, the only reason he hasn't yet been announced is because he wasn't booked at the time of the last announcement. I understand the Latitude/Calling reasoning, but I disagree with it. Him headlining is possible, but it's more likely he's the penultimate and they'll announce him with whoever is above him, or with the stage splits. I'm hoping we may even get the headliner with the stage splits, but not if the whole June thing is true.

Of course, he might not be there at all.

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Would you say that this is due to the 'type' of person who attends Glastonbury? There seems to be an impression that Glastonbury seems to be a festival for the middle classes. I have heard the statement middleclasstonbury on numerous occasions. Now I have no idea if this is true and I can't wait to find out what it is actually like. But I am a little worried worried from the stories I have heard from people that have been. I have been told that as soon as people hear my accent then I will get shifty looks off people who are worried that I might rob their tent.

The Depeche Mode one is strange, I thought they would have been a perfect fit for Glastonbury. Worldwide superstars and one of Britains most innovative and ground breaking bands.

Okay I am going to group bands/ artists into those I think cause most headline excitement (just my views)

Group 1- the group for which excitement levels would be highest- any massive classic rock band/ artist (Pink Floyd, Led Zep, Bowie)

Group 2 -Classic indie/ rock bands like Radiohead, blur - bands that would be generally accepted and have generally headlined previously

Group 3- Bands that haven't played before, but have lot of hits (like Depeche Mode, Fleetwood Mac) I think would cause lots of excitement, but also would divide opinion more than groups 1 &2

Group 4 - The big Pop or Hip Hop star headliner. Loved or hated. Would be top group of artists for some to see or bottom of the list for others.

Group 5- bands not previously seen as big enough to headline (for example Kings of Leon when they first headlined).

Group 6 -The bands most people have had a chance to see headline many times before (Coldplay), for me the least exciting bookings of the lot

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I understand the Latitude/Calling reasoning, but I disagree with it.

then you don't grasp how the booking process works.

Him headlining is possible

Yep. Nothing about any contractual agreements elsewhere would stop it, unless there's an agreement Noel signed up to which absolutely forbids it and the person that contract is with won't budge on that already-agreed contract.

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140 characters in a tweet though.

it takes far fewer characters to tweet that the story is completely untrue in all aspects.

She didn't say that, she said people shouldn't get confused by the stories, and then clarified that the headliner (just the headliner!!) was a normal band, and suggested that there was a 2nd act to be announced playing before that headliner.

The subtleties are likely to mean as much as the words themselves.

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Didnt Travis Headline one year? lol

Yeah, if you look deep enough into several decades worth of headliners there are a few who were at their peak when they headlined who don't look quite so clever now. Travis road the coat tails of the britpop era with their jangly, cheery faced songs where they repeated one word over and over for the chorus. I think it really started to go downhill for them when they tried increasing the number of words and got confused.

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Michael said the announcement would be a "big one". I don't think Blur fit that description by themselves.

I agree completely. He knows that if Blur were announced many people would be pleased but an equal number of people would go meH. He must have something up his sleeve that is going to be comparable to the Stones announcement which also partly explains the info embargo.
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NGHFB would need at the least 6/7 Oasis songs included in the set list to a 'successful headliner' .. Which is something which I imagine he wouldn't agree to .. Especially since they now have another album under their belt.

They have some solid songs, but nothing that could lead to any form of singalong to create a 'Pryamid moment'. Mumfords/Florence even have songs in this bracket, which for me would make them more worthy.

People agree Morrissey isn't big enough to headline without The Smiths, and he has some huge solo hits, so by means could Noel Gallagher headline without Oasis?!

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Michael said the announcement would be a "big one". I don't think Blur fit that description by themselves.

I agree completely. He knows that if Blur were announced many people would be pleased but an equal number of people would go meH. He must have something up his sleeve that is going to be comparable to the Stones announcement which also partly explains the info embargo.
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I wouldnt take and of Noels, or Liams, quotes that seriously. Noel particularly says what he wants at the time for effect and lolz, he contradicts himself regularly. Its funny and all deliberate, but dont get hung up on analysing his quotes.

If it is him, the hold back is quite simple, Glastonbury doesnt 'need' to announce him, the other shows need to sell tickets, even if there are contractural agreements in place, its a courtesy.

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Michael said the announcement would be a "big one". I don't think Blur fit that description by themselves.

I agree completely. He knows that if Blur were announced many people would be pleased but an equal number of people would go meH. He must have something up his sleeve that is going to be comparable to the Stones announcement which also partly explains the info embargo.
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NGHFB would need at the least 6/7 Oasis songs included in the set list to a 'successful headliner' .. Which is something which I imagine he wouldn't agree to .. Especially since they now have another album under their belt.

They have some solid songs, but nothing that could lead to any form of singalong to create a 'Pryamid moment'. Mumfords/Florence even have songs in this bracket, which for me would make them more worthy.

People agree Morrissey isn't big enough to headline without The Smiths, and he has some huge solo hits, so by means could Noel Gallagher headline without Oasis?!

Noel always closes with Oasis tracks at HFB's gigs. He'd play them no bother. As he says 'they are his records'.

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then you don't grasp how the booking process works.

Yep. Nothing about any contractual agreements elsewhere would stop it, unless there's an agreement Noel signed up to which absolutely forbids it and the person that contract is with won't budge on that already-agreed contract.

The reason I disagree with it is because Glastonbury haven't held back announcing acts other festivals have had before, and the fact he isn't billed as an exclusive at those festivals. The only unique thing about this situation is that we believe that it's a late booking, which is quite a unique situation, so it's harder for us to take precedent from prior years.

I just don't believe that Noel as a headliner would be held back until June. I know it depends on their contracts, but with Noel playing at three UK festivals, I personally don't see him having clauses saying he can't be announced for anything else. I know you think he does. The truth is, neither of us really know, we're just speculating.

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Yeah, if you look deep enough into several decades worth of headliners there are a few who were at their peak when they headlined who don't look quite so clever now. Travis road the coat tails of the britpop era with their jangly, cheery faced songs where they repeated one word over and over for the chorus. I think it really started to go downhill for them when they tried increasing the number of words and got confused.

Haha yea, so Headliners are just based on popularity at the time. for the record i dont mind travis haha, had a few tunes back in the day. Think they would be a good afternoon/Morning booking on the other stage or pryamid now

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