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So for me, we've got one true headliner (Kanye). Foo's are just a a bit 'meh'. Don't get why they are headliners now other than the fact they are available and the pool of headliners that meets one of the 3 above is diminishing. Oasis, Noel, Blur don't meet any of my criterea

Get the feeling the Sunday headliner might be in the 'something different' catagory.

Id say Kanye is the something different category. How many big mainstream songs does he have? 2, 3?

Foos are staple festival fodder and are a watered down rock headliner after Metallica last year.

Next the festival needs a mainstream artist thats credible and can provide the big feelgood closure signgalongs whilst having new material out to remain relevant and promote .... Blur, Roses*, NGHB's fit that bill

*maybe

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Does everyone remember back in 2011 when everyone thought that Arcade Fire would Sub U2?

Manage your expectations and avoid disappointment folks ;)

ELO are nowhere near big enough to sub.

Here is a selection of Sub Headliners from the last few years. ELO would fit in just fine. I refer you to my earlier comment about expectations.

Elbow

Pendulum

Primal Scream

Leonard Cohen

Morrisey

Jack White

The Fratellis

Amy Winehouse

Faithless

Nick Cave

Dizzie Rascal

Scissor Sisters

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Here is a selection of Sub Headliners from the last few years. ELO would fit in just fine. I refer you to my earlier comment about expectations.

Elbow

Pendulum

Primal Scream

Leonard Cohen

Morrisey

Jack White

The Fratellis

Amy Winehouse

Faithless

Nick Cave

Dizzie Rascal

Scissor Sisters

The Fratelli's. looooooooool. Dear god

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How could they? I don't have a contract with that festival. Free speech, and all that. :)

If the promoter could prove that the band had told me for me to publish then I guess they'd have comeback onto the band for breech of contract, tho I've never heard of a band getting sued for something like that - and I can't think of a time when a band at that level has told efests anything anyway.

Thats quite strange in this context though, you'd think any band would want the publicity so they'd leak it through other sources, especially if it couldn't come back and bite them on the arse.

Doesn't explain why Glasto have been so strikingly secretive this year?

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Would you say that this is due to the 'type' of person who attends Glastonbury? There seems to be an impression that Glastonbury seems to be a festival for the middle classes. I have heard the statement middleclasstonbury on numerous occasions. Now I have no idea if this is true and I can't wait to find out what it is actually like. But I am a little worried worried from the stories I have heard from people that have been. I have been told that as soon as people hear my accent then I will get shifty looks off people who are worried that I might rob their tent.

The Depeche Mode one is strange, I thought they would have been a perfect fit for Glastonbury. Worldwide superstars and one of Britains most innovative and ground breaking bands.

Not sure where you're from but from that comment I presume you're from liverpool. A know a lot of people are intimidated by a scouse accent - mainly the middle class southerners who have lived a sheltered existence - but you'll certainly not experience any animosity.

What you will realise is that glastonbury is massive and each area is like a festival in itself. Most of the discussion on here revolves around the pyramid stage, which is where the new breed of glastonbury goer hang out, apart from occasional visits to the other stage and John peel tent.

In the other areas of the festival there are still just about enough ruffians to make the festival still bearable...You're many years too late to see any of the proper crusties, I think the last of them left in 2000, but there are still a few long-timers knocking about.

The posh middle classes that bring with them a bad attitude and create a shit atmosphere are increasing in number by the year, but I dont think they are the majority just yet.

When they are, it's time to call it a day.

Going back to depeche mode, I get the feeling they have a big and loyal fanbase, but casual fans are non-plussed by them, which doesnt make them an attractive act to the bookers. Just my guess.

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Not sure where you're from but from that comment I presume you're from liverpool. A know a lot of people are intimidated by a scouse accent - mainly the middle class southerners who have lived a sheltered existence - but you'll certainly not experience any animosity.

What you will realise is that glastonbury is massive and each area is like a festival in itself. Most of the discussion on here revolves around the pyramid stage, which is where the new breed of glastonbury goer hang out, apart from occasional visits to the other stage and John peel tent.

In the other areas of the festival there are still just about enough ruffians to make the festival still bearable...You're many years too late to see any of the proper crusties, I think the last of them left in 2000, but there are still a few long-timers knocking about.

The posh middle classes that bring with them a bad attitude and create a shit atmosphere are increasing in number by the year, but I dont think they are the majority just yet.

When they are, it's time to call it a day.

Going back to depeche mode, I get the feeling they have a big and loyal fanbase, but casual fans are non-plussed by them, which doesnt make them an attractive act to the bookers. Just my guess

I'd agree with that, a few friends joined me last year for their 1st Glastonbury and they were surprised at the general level of friendliness around the site and how much fun you can have in areas away from the main stage.

I've always put it down to it being so hard to get tickets that everyone appreciates it's a bit of a privelage to go.

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My first thought after Emily's tweet was Blur subbed by Noel. Sounds about right.

Also maybe Michael's 'two acts coming together' comments come from the fact he sees two former rivals playing before one another a big thing? Nothing to base that on, mind.

Libertines were my guess from day 1 and could still put them in the mix for either slot.

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Thats quite strange in this context though, you'd think any band would want the publicity so they'd leak it through other sources, especially if it couldn't come back and bite them on the arse.

Doesn't explain why Glasto have been so strikingly secretive this year?

There's a decent chance people who really know have said it in places, and not been believed. :lol:

As for the band themselves, they'll get the publicity at announcement time, it doesn't make any difference to them when they get it. And they'd probably prefer their word to not publicise it is regarded as good - if for no other reason than it would ultimately hit them in the pocket.

Glasto are being secretive because they have to, because that's the deal they'll have with the band.,

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He's a risk because he's a controversial person, not because he doesn't have big mainstream songs. He's got no shortage of those.

I dont profess to be a big hip hop/rap fan, I only have a copy of one of his albums, but I checked his discography ... and I still dont see it, particularly at Glastonbury. I really dont mind that he's playing, dont get me worng, but I think the festival will balance him out with some familiarity. Even though he follows Jay Z, he remains the out of step act as a headliner ... this is backed up by the popularity of the (ridiculaous) petition that emerged.

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Jesus haven't been on here properly in a couple of days and its all going off. Didn't expect an act to slot in above alt-j considering they're subbing reading. Very interesting. Regardless of michaels British comment I'll still hold on hopelessly for Prince (although still expect blur)

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There's a decent chance people who really know have said it in places, and not been believed. :lol:

As for the band themselves, they'll get the publicity at announcement time, it doesn't make any difference to them when they get it. And they'd probably prefer their word to not publicise it is regarded as good - if for no other reason than it would ultimately hit them in the pocket.

Glasto are being secretive because they have to, because that's the deal they'll have with the band.,

:secret:

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NGHFB would need at the least 6/7 Oasis songs included in the set list to a 'successful headliner' .. Which is something which I imagine he wouldn't agree to .. Especially since they now have another album under their belt.

On this argument though, surely he'd have to play the same amount of songs at T to pull it off?

The info embargo is *DEFINITELY* because the headliner "has other shows".

I'm 100% certain of this.

So the options are Blur, Macca, FM and Noel (although I feel this one fits firmly more into a sub option than a header. His latest solo stuff is nothing to shout about for a headline spot, I can see a big portion of the crowd just not singing much and opening up for the Oasis stuff but having that for a sub slot and not a headlien slot I think would be a big difference.

If we were taking about headlining Leeds/Reading then I agree than this would be the case. But if we're talking about Glastonbury and their audience as a whole .. I'm sure Morrissey would be a much more popular choice.

Hell Yes!

I'd say they're about a similar level to Kasabian last year - tho much of that is off the back of Noel's past, admittedly.

And headlining T in the Park put them squarely in major-festival headliner status.

I'm not sure about this Neil? Noel playing a 45k outdoor London event which is not sold out yet, and also Latitude got him. I found the idea of Latitude strange after the T announcement and when it was made it's quite clear I feel that T gave him that as other options just weren't available. It probably didn't help them that the list of Coldplay, KOL, Foo Fighters and Muse were unavailable for whatever reason and the fact they couldn't have got Foo's even if they wanted to. For what T would book I'm not sure who else was round to do it? They probably weren't aware of Blur's availability when booking.

My guess will be Foals subbing (with Noel's HFB headlining with the current information). And I feel the picture Foals had of a pyramid type shape on instagram is a decent clue to them playing. (Why it's been held back? Not a clue)

They don't have a reason to be held back, I'd imagine both the sub and headliner are being held back for a reason.

My first thought after Emily's tweet was Blur subbed by Noel. Sounds about right.

Also maybe Michael's 'two acts coming together' comments come from the fact he sees two former rivals playing before one another a big thing? Nothing to base that on, mind.

Libertines were my guess from day 1 and could still put them in the mix for either slot.

The thing I think Michael might have been getting at with two coming together was that if it was Noel then Blur then he might have an idea Noel could be likely to join them on stage, it fits in with it without actually confirming it. Most likely will do.

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As for the band themselves, they'll get the publicity at announcement time, it doesn't make any difference to them when they get it. And they'd probably prefer their word to not publicise it is regarded as good - if for no other reason than it would ultimately hit them in the pocket.

Glasto are being secretive because they have to, because that's the deal they'll have with the band.,

This.

If it is NGHFBs. Speaks to Melvin. We are doing a London Festival and your two, no others planned, contract signed.

NG hears from Glastonbury. If it then gets announced without him (or his management) speaking to Festival Republic then FR would not exactly be over happy, will think seriously about asking him to headline an FR festival again (that includes the very lucrative Reading/Leeds).

I don't thing NG would want that.

This can be applied to any big artist/band and any promoter.

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