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Spot on. The brainwashing is depressing to witness. Surely the glastonbury bookers havent fallen for it too though?? I think michael is immune, but emily I'm not so sure.....

I accept utter trash like take that will always exist and it is very easy to ignore, but when they start polluting glastonbury then it becomes a problem.

Can't help but get the feeling its all too late now, the youth now have known little different. Hating/booing certain bands or genres has become unacceptable, whereas 20/30 years ago your musical taste was defined as much by who you hated as who you loved. A very immature attitude, but that was the point, as you grow up you see many of your prejudices were daft. So when people start saying Take That are too shit for Glasto you get a wave of post modern tosh rammed down your throat, claiming it would be 'diverse'!

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Which is first, the chicken or egg?

The Glastonbury bookers are there to serve the Glastonbury audience. ;)

I still don't think it's necessary to serve up this dross, regardless.

For every pop fan who turns their back on Glasto for not booking rubbish, there will be many more fans of genuinely talented musicians willing to take their spot in the fields.

If a band like this were rightly shunned back in their 'heyday' why should they be considered acceptable now.

They haven't gained any credibility.

We'll have 1D, Avicii, Guetta or some such parasites on the main stages in 2 years

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By that rationale people who were in their 30s and 40s in the eighties and nineties had also already outgrown their prejudices.

Some stay with you, especially if the music you loved was born out of the same prejudices.

I mean - who writes off an entire genre?

People young enough not to know any better?

Don't get me wrong, the kids today are probably more enlightened, they have the greatest hits of pretty much every band ever available instantly and for free. A few years ago if you didn't hear it on the radio and it wasn't in a family members' collection, you didn't hear it.

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Some stay with you, especially if the music you loved was born out of the same prejudices.

I dunno if that's something to embrace, though. I'd rather a culture that was expansive, open and free of dogma rather than a narrow, blinkered one with everything neatly parcelled up and segregated by genre.

But, yeah - it's a great time to be a music fan. We've never had it so good.

Edit to add: Though if you had a decent record library nearby back in the day you could still do some pretty serious delving.

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If Take That play I presume there are going to be a lot of protests over Barlow plugging £25m into that tax evasion avoidance scheme?

When you really look at it, hes basically let sick children die as a result.

there would be more protests than the U2 one I reckon.

Barlow has no redeeming qualities: shit music, tory, tax avoider, involved with x factor. A truly loathsome individual.

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I don't want this to come across as an endorsement of Take That or Barlow - they certainly wouldn't be my choice of Glastonbury headliner at ALL - but I do feel obliged to correct a few things here.

Barlow or Take That have never signed up to Cowell's label; the only connection really is that Gary Barlow was a judge on X Factor - Take That had already re-established themselves as a hugely successful UK group (whether we like it or not) in advance of that with huge selling albums in 2006, 2008 and 2010. Barlow didn't become an X Factor judge until 2011. The success has nothing to do with Cowell. Whilst we might not like their music, they established their comeback based on songs they've written and putting on good pop shows for the people who like that sort of thing (which there are obviously a lot of).

It's difficult for me to see why Beyoncé would be considered an acceptable headliner and Take That not.

Anyway, TT as a Glasto headliner is not for me but I think they deserve a bit more credit than the likes of 1D, Olly Murs etc.

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I still don't think it's necessary to serve up this dross, regardless.

For every pop fan who turns their back on Glasto for not booking rubbish, there will be many more fans of genuinely talented musicians willing to take their spot in the fields.

If a band like this were rightly shunned back in their 'heyday' why should they be considered acceptable now.

They haven't gained any credibility.

We'll have 1D, Avicii, Guetta or some such parasites on the main stages in 2 years

Glastonbury has got more popular over the years because its become more and more mainstream over the years.

That path ultimately leads the booking of the likes of Take That (even if if it's never specifically Take That).

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Or maybe Michael isn't up his own arse and likes to keep the festival providing some variety.

Take that and variety :lol:

I mean - who writes off an entire genre?

Depends on the genre, I've wrote off two, maufactured pop dross designed to sell records strangely more on looks than quality of the music and gabba.

You can write something off anyway until proven otherwise. Even its more likely to be a genre crossing over into something you like.

It's difficult for me to see why Beyoncé would be considered an acceptable headliner and Take That not.

In my eyes she isn't still, though shes been there and done it, it was as expected shit. So no use in complaining about it anymore.

Just like if Take That do it, though I do think Take That could do irreparable damage to Glastonbury!

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Take that are something different from the rest of the pop dross. They were the absolutely epitome of shit music for a decade, before they thankfully faded from view. There has been no band before or since that were derided as much as them. If you admitted to being a take that fan you would have been mercilessly mocked. Being accused of being a take that fan was used as an insult for a period of time.

This isnt just pop-pap. This is take that. The towering pinnacle of shitness.

They are the poster boys for all that is shit and awful about music and the music industry. There is absolutely no single act on the planet that is a less appropriate glastonbury headliner. They are the worst of the worst. The festival could not sink any lower than having take that.

The thought of seeing take that written on a glastonbury poster genuinely makes me feel physically ill.

It can not happen, it must not happen.

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Take That didn't fade from view. they split on their own terms, and suicide hotlines had to be opened because of it. they were a fucking huge act in the 90's and they're still a huge act now

i must admit, the thought of the 2010 Robbie and Jason including Take That seems a lot more appealing than the current dregs that are left, but if we're going to have a pop act up there then i don't see why it shouldn't be them (although obviously there are people on here who think there shouldn't be a pop act up there at all - boohoo)

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Complaining that Glastonbury isn't being forward thinking or diverse by not booking Take That is like complaining that Glasto doesn't have a fucking McDonalds stall.

As much as I am not a take that fan and wont go to see them. Looking at previous line ups Will Young was on the bill in 2003. He was straight out of XFactor. Is that not worse? At least Take That - well Barry Garlow, write their own tunes

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As much as I am not a take that fan and wont go to see them. Looking at previous line ups Will Young was on the bill in 2003. He was straight out of XFactor. Is that not worse? At least Take That - well Barry Garlow, write their own tunes

I didn't know that but that was an inconspicuous lunchtime slot. Look at the acts on that bill though; R.E.M., Radiohead, Mogwai, all massive cult favourites that have risen through the ranks to the forefront of their subgenres. Who's gonna wanna do that when all you need to do to headline Glastonbury is look good, learn to dance and audition for talent moguls? Not that it matters but yes he does write his own stuff, but it's the banal shite that Glastonbury became popular for being an alternative to, rather than sticking on top of the pile.

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