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Ah, yeah, I'd forgotten about the smaller venues thing. That was stupid. As for the overpriced food thing - that's the case at every event like BST. Especially ones held in London. Not a valid complaint really. It falls down on every comparison with Glastonbury, yes, but that's not really fair :P.

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If someone is massive in commercial america there's a huge chance they will be huge here too.

It's only in very very rare circumstances that someone will be huge in america and not big in the UK / Europe.

So very totally wrong.

Jesus fucking Christ.

That alone is a reason not to enter into a debate with you.

Utterly crushingly wrong. Fuckin' 'ell man.

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The sound is dreadful - so very quiet and if you get a cross wind then forget hearing anything complete.

During Motorhead we could hold a conversation with no shouting needed.

The smaller stages are pointless, the biggest held 500 so the queue's were massive so forget seeign anything apart from the main stage. There was even a queue to register to join the queue for one of the stages - all they wanted were your personal details for advertising purposes.

People jumping barriers to get to the premium areas who had not paid for them. Stewards looking on laughing.

Curfew at 10.15.

Overpriced food

Overpriced drink

Overpriced merchandise

and on top of it no pass outs - once you were in that was it for the day.

I could go on but you get the picture.

Hyde Park in general has always been shite for gigs, no matter who's running it. I've been to a few, run by different promotors: Pulp, Madonna, the Stones... But it would take someone very special playing solely as an exclusive to get me to ever even consider going back again.

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big pop stars and rock bands, then yeah, it'll probably cross over. a lot of stuff in America (especially country music) is fucking huge and doesn't even make a peep over here. there's barely a market for it

Country doesn't crossover, but most rock and pop maybe even a fair chunk of hip hop does.

In relative terms there's always some things that don't crossover but a fair things do

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As demonstrated by the poor crowd Dolly Parton drew last year

So one minute you disagree with me... Then you agree with me :S

Country as a whole does not cross over, i have a huge chunk of my family which live in america and they all love luke bryan and eric church but they are unknown in the US

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Taylor Swift could be following in Dolly Parton's country-pop footsteps at Glastonbury if organiser Michael Eavis' latest comments are anything to go by.

The "Shake It Off" singer scored the fastest-selling album in 12 years with 1989 this week, meaning she should draw a large festival crowd.

Swift has already been confirmed to headline British Summer Time Hyde Park on the Saturday of Glastonbury weekend, but a gap in her world tour would permit her to play other UK dates.

"Taylor would be great to follow the Dolly Parton slot especially being a country singer," Eavis told The Mirror, adding that his aim of securing Fleetwood Mac is "not looking good at the moment".

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Taylor Swift is at the top of her game. Enormous media interest around her. Critically acclaimed current album. Sold out 5 O2s last year and booking agents had the confidence to put her in Hyde Park despite the fact everyone hates that venue (the rest of her UK dates sold out instantly) Audience not just limited to teenyboppers. Album has been in the top 10 for weeks. 2 massive hit singles on just the current album, plenty of hits in her back catalogue too. Amazing live shows that are unanimously well-reviewed.

If not now for her to headline, when?

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If not now for her to headline, when?

Never. There's an ever-reducing pool of headline-sized acts and the Eavises should actively be promoting younger talent up to the top tier in an effort to keep the festival both popular and culturally relevant - but, crucially, it has to be an indie act that either sounds like mid 1990s Britpop, late 1990s Dadrock or mid 2000s post-punk.

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did Neil Young sell out Hyde Park? did Neil Young headline Glastonbury? what's your point here russy, because it seems to be the only real point you've made on the matter, and it's instantly flawed

Most of the other acts for BST have had other biggish London shows around that time announced way before that. I'd say that had a lot of effect on a venue thats pretty much universally hated for being shit.

I'd say when shakira played the other year she was "bigger" then than swift is now. That's the sort of slot swift should be in.

I remember being quite Shakira would even play that sort of slot as well, Scissor Sisters were on after her!!

Well look at wireless, this year all three of it's headliners aren't british and one of them is Nicki Minaj, who's never really had massive commercial success here. Just the one or two big singles, her latest album bombed here!

Realistically you'd look at that and think, why is she headlining?

Well because american influence is so great, that someone being ginormous in america has a bleeding over effect.

What's the quote? When america sneezes the world catches a cold?

Didn't you say that in thread they was a poor set of headliners for Wireless?

Utter tripe, utter utter tripe on the big in america stuff.

Look at Coachella lineups and some of the headliners and where they would be here. (The same is equally true, look at Kasabian

not at all - although both pop acts, they're VERY different pop acts who appeal to very different crowds. Swift's crossover appeal is huge - 1D's hasn't quite escaped the hoards of screaming girls phase

They really ain't, you Swift fans come up with all sorts of weird bollocks as to why she isn't but for her last couple of albums there is no difference between her and 1D. Its music for Pre-Teens.

If Swift can play, then 1D can play and that quite frankly would indicate WWIII was about to start. Do you want WWIII to start?! (Sound tracked by 1D)

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They really ain't, you Swift fans come up with all sorts of weird bollocks as to why she isn't but for her last couple of albums there is no difference between her and 1D. Its music for Pre-Teens.

If Swift can play, then 1D can play and that quite frankly would indicate WWIII was about to start. Do you want WWIII to start?! (Sound tracked by 1D)

talking out of your arse mate. even if her music was written with pre-teens in mind (it wasn't), it's managed to reach a wider audience (as if you needed any more proof of this than this forum). One Direction will never headline Glastonbury (unless they somehow manage to last another twenty years and become a Take That-esque national treasure - but even then, we'll have to wait and see whether Take That are allowed to headline first)

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