Crazyfool01 Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 On that note @Dukeicon any ideas when it was supposed to be removed by ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Dickfingers Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 Things I’d like to see. Dozzy on The Glade 4 hour set. Harvey in the Downlow. Jane Fitz somewhere, anywhere. Josey Rebelle given a 4 hour set somewhere. Skream dubstep set. Job Jobse pill set like this https://m.soundcloud.com/jobjobse/sunrise-at-the-last-ever-nachtdigital?in=annette-stephany/sets/dachiko Octo Octa b2b Eris Drew Interested to see what Icon comes up with this year, I thought it was incredible last time. Truth be told since 2019 I haven’t been into electronic music like I was due to not being able to go out/falling out of the routine listening to mixes/new releases. Anyone wanna share the best things of last year/year before? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 Yer man Diamond suggested Giant Swan were booked for IICON last time out, think a few people wanted that as a sort of Karenn spiritual successor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernintendo Chalmers Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Madyaker said: Have they had 3 years? I doubt they’ve been at much during the pandemic. The money certainly hasn’t been rolling in from a worldwide tour like the spider used to do. It’ll probably be much the same as 2019 I think. I enjoyed it. That's a fair point, I guess time doesn't necessary reflect the opportunity to develop in this instance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernintendo Chalmers Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 It's great to see this thread spring back to life again! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukeicon Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 46 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said: On that note @Dukeicon any ideas when it was supposed to be removed by ? Not sure but here's the planning documents. I'd imagine COVID has had some affect on getting it removed, plus they wouldn't really want to get a crane up there on wet grass. https://publicaccess.mendip.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=Q6YWYWKPL7T00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuie Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 hour ago, crazyfool1 said: Yeah it would as it appears to still be there … maybe a local can confirm as Obs the webcam is down … I’d also be surprised if the south east corner hasn’t had some renaming and changes 15 minutes ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said: That's a fair point, I guess time doesn't necessary reflect the opportunity to develop in this instance My guess is (purely a guess) that Pangea will be no more and they will return to the tried and tested free standing spider that doesn't require planning consent. Pangea wasn't widely well received and clearly requires a lot more development and money. I'd be surprised if they throw more money at it when they know they can't get permission to keep it. The applications were only for temporary permission until 2023 anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernintendo Chalmers Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 12 minutes ago, stuie said: My guess is (purely a guess) that Pangea will be no more and they will return to the tried and tested free standing spider that doesn't require planning consent. Pangea wasn't widely well received and clearly requires a lot more development and money. I'd be surprised if they throw more money at it when they know they can't get permission to keep it. The applications were only for temporary permission until 2023 anyway. Ah, RIP the Crane, we hardly knew ye. I'm all for progression and new innovation but there's nothing like being underneath the belly of the beast that is the spider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, stuie said: My guess is (purely a guess) that Pangea will be no more and they will return to the tried and tested free standing spider that doesn't require planning consent. Pangea wasn't widely well received and clearly requires a lot more development and money. I'd be surprised if they throw more money at it when they know they can't get permission to keep it. The applications were only for temporary permission until 2023 anyway. Yeah that’s a reasonable assumption… I’d hesitate to say that those acts listed seem like they were for Pangea rather than Arcadia … we will see fairly soon anyway … I’d personally like to see Pangea grow as I have arcadia and quite like seeing the development aspect … and really can’t see where the spider would develop now … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyhana22 Posted January 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tommy Dickfingers said: Things I’d like to see. Dozzy on The Glade 4 hour set. Harvey in the Downlow. Jane Fitz somewhere, anywhere. Josey Rebelle given a 4 hour set somewhere. Skream dubstep set. Job Jobse pill set like this https://m.soundcloud.com/jobjobse/sunrise-at-the-last-ever-nachtdigital?in=annette-stephany/sets/dachiko Octo Octa b2b Eris Drew Interested to see what Icon comes up with this year, I thought it was incredible last time. Truth be told since 2019 I haven’t been into electronic music like I was due to not being able to go out/falling out of the routine listening to mixes/new releases. Anyone wanna share the best things of last year/year before? I love a man with ambition! How many 4-hout sets can anyone remember from ever? Coxy played for 3h45m (by the lineup listings) at the Glade in 2019, of course, but I can't think of any other truly long sets... What have we got? Ben Edit: oh, and Jane Fitz - I'll be right by your side... Edited January 27, 2022 by bennyhana22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyhana22 Posted January 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Dukeicon said: Not sure but here's the planning documents. I'd imagine COVID has had some affect on getting it removed, plus they wouldn't really want to get a crane up there on wet grass. https://publicaccess.mendip.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=Q6YWYWKPL7T00 Apologies for being lazy and not reading the planning stuff, but I seem to remember (probably erroneously) that they were pretty sure they wouldn't het planning permission to leave the base in place forever, but that it was 'OK' for a year or so more after 2019. Before the webcam went down it was ever present in the Arcadia field and I though that there were defo plans for Pangea Mk 2 for 2020, even if the long term future was uncertain. TBH, given the time and financial investment they made in the project, I'd be very surprised if the crane is not there this year, again even if its days are numbered at Glastonbury , at least, due to planning. I guess the main issue that it was going to take something monumental to follow the spider and not always be a little bit of a deflated balloon. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuie Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, bennyhana22 said: Apologies for being lazy and not reading the planning stuff, but I seem to remember (probably erroneously) that they were pretty sure they wouldn't het planning permission to leave the base in place forever, but that it was 'OK' for a year or so more after 2019. Before the webcam went down it was ever present in the Arcadia field and I though that there were defo plans for Pangea Mk 2 for 2020, even if the long term future was uncertain. TBH, given the time and financial investment they made in the project, I'd be very surprised if the crane is not there this year, again even if its days are numbered at Glastonbury , at least, due to planning. I guess the main issue that it was going to take something monumental to follow the spider and not always be a little bit of a deflated balloon. Ben The thing is though, if they want to keep the council on side, ignoring the results of a planning application and an appeal might not be the way to do it. They state in their application statements that it's not feasible to remove the base between festivals so whilst they may be able to drag out the removal of the base until after this years festival, there's little point throwing more cash at it. Isn't it lovely to start speculating about the stages and line ups 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blutarsky Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 38 minutes ago, bennyhana22 said: I love a man with ambition! How many 4-hout sets can anyone remember from ever? Coxy played for 3h45m (by the lineup listings) at the Glade in 2019, of course, but I can't think of any other truly long sets... What have we got? Ben Edit: oh, and Jane Fitz - I'll be right by your side... Craig Charles in Shangri-La 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxPower Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 5 hours ago, gfa said: I’m surprised nobody is talking about Field Day’s lineup additions - i’m seriously regretting not getting tickets at £40, fantastic lineup. hope we see fjaak at glastonbury Sound was dreadful last year. 2.5 hour mayhem queues to get in - people having panic attacks because of crushes in the queues. Security actively lifting people from the crowd for drug searches. not a good vibes festival, wouldn’t go back at all. The sound definitely the worst aspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbailey80 Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 4 hours ago, crazyfool1 said: Yeah it would as it appears to still be there … maybe a local can confirm as Obs the webcam is down … I’d also be surprised if the south east corner hasn’t had some renaming and changes There was nothing different in August when it was worthy pastures. I had a wonder and just empty fields. Obviously nothing would be up but layout wise there was nothing they'd built like the Spike. Im surprised they don't build more semi permanent stuff like the walkabout in the Wood and Spike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Dickfingers Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 hour ago, bennyhana22 said: I love a man with ambition! How many 4-hout sets can anyone remember from ever? Coxy played for 3h45m (by the lineup listings) at the Glade in 2019, of course, but I can't think of any other truly long sets... What have we got? Ben Edit: oh, and Jane Fitz - I'll be right by your side... I only know of the Carl Cox one also. I think they should start doing proper sets though maybe as a special thing if they get a big name or a really well respected one. Money aside what is their reason for not doing so do we think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obiginnaw Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 4 hours ago, Tommy Dickfingers said: Truth be told since 2019 I haven’t been into electronic music like I was due to not being able to go out/falling out of the routine listening to mixes/new releases. Anyone wanna share the best things of last year/year before? Four Tet and TSHA lost village 2021 have both been released on souundcloud, both very solid sets . Four tet's is a thing of beauty as always Ben UFO essential mix 25th September 2021 Daniel Avery's and DJ Seinfelds latest albums are a really nice listen, exactly how an electronic album should be (also the Lone Swordsman by Avery is a beautiful track) Literally anything that Haai's doing, the girl is absolutely smashing it at the moment for me, the new track with Romy and Fred Again some quality artists are going Live more - i.e. Bicep, Overmono, Prospa and Ross from Friends (also phenomenal new album for me) Y U QT is a very nice artist at the minute as well who I'd like to see somewhere on the lineup, for your garage-y type stuff sort of unrelated but i also wanna throw Dixon in the mix of someone i wanna see this year as he's always been a ship in the night/the unfortunate compromise in clashes and also happy 500 pages to the best thread on the site , thanking you all for the great recommendations over the years! Love 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyhana22 Posted January 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 17 minutes ago, Tommy Dickfingers said: I only know of the Carl Cox one also. I think they should start doing proper sets though maybe as a special thing if they get a big name or a really well respected one. Money aside what is their reason for not doing so do we think? I would say it's because it's not seen as that kind of festival. It's not Houghton, Freerotation, Gottwood etc, and so the line-up is curated for variety, keeping the largest number engaged and entertained etc. How many 'all-genres' festivals have regular 3-4h sets? Not many, I'd say. Even Boomtown, which is probably the danciest of the multi-genre biggies, doesn't have 3-4h sets in any significant way. A shame, I agree, but I'd be more surprised if they did have them, tbh... The only place I could really see that being a regular thing, I think, would be the Downlow. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 hour ago, MaxPower said: Sound was dreadful last year. 2.5 hour mayhem queues to get in - people having panic attacks because of crushes in the queues. Security actively lifting people from the crowd for drug searches. not a good vibes festival, wouldn’t go back at all. The sound definitely the worst aspect. Oh thats rubbish, i have enjoyed the main APE festival both times i’ve been Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernintendo Chalmers Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 4 hours ago, Tommy Dickfingers said: Anyone wanna share the best things of last year/year before? Sherelle's Fabric mix has been my go-to album over the last couple months. Wonderful stuff https://open.spotify.com/album/3N7MYNEvRAf04r5x0e1E0V?si=cODvRg_fR-ukWutNU1jOxg&utm_source=copy-link 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 Just to recap this is what we have: Carl Cox, Chems, Aphex Twin, Love Regenerator, Chase and Status from JoeyT Then four tet, chems, chase and status, calvin harris and annie mac from crazyfool right? will be very happy if we get even half of this. anyone got anything else to share while we’re at it? 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 wish Emily was still doing the Q and A like she used to do .... loads of questions stemming from this thread in the last few hours fingers crossed they resume next year and I can get some info out of her 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyhana22 Posted January 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 39 minutes ago, gfa said: Just to recap this is what we have: Carl Cox, Chems, Aphex Twin, Love Regenerator, Chase and Status from JoeyT Then four tet, chems, chase and status, calvin harris and annie mac from crazyfool right? will be very happy if we get even half of this. anyone got anything else to share while we’re at it? 😉 Nothing to add from a vague inkling perspective, but in terms of wish list? Oscar Mulero would be the dream. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanh Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 Creamfields South line-up, would love some names from here - pretty spectacular imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukeicon Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 3 hours ago, bennyhana22 said: Apologies for being lazy and not reading the planning stuff, but I seem to remember (probably erroneously) that they were pretty sure they wouldn't het planning permission to leave the base in place forever, but that it was 'OK' for a year or so more after 2019. Before the webcam went down it was ever present in the Arcadia field and I though that there were defo plans for Pangea Mk 2 for 2020, even if the long term future was uncertain. TBH, given the time and financial investment they made in the project, I'd be very surprised if the crane is not there this year, again even if its days are numbered at Glastonbury , at least, due to planning. I guess the main issue that it was going to take something monumental to follow the spider and not always be a little bit of a deflated balloon. Ben The main issue was that they wanted to keep the bottom 20.4m of crane (what was on the webcam) up all year around for 4 years to save them taking it down and putting it up. There's never been any issue with it being at festivals subsuquent to the 2019 festival, so long as it's built and taken down in the 28 days permitted development in connection with the festival, as permitted with the General Permitted Development Order 2015 (GPDO). Just means they have 1.5 weeks pre-festival to put it up, 1 week of the festival and 1.5 weeks post festival to remove. This means more money is needed on staff to rig/de-rig each year (which was one of their points when they applied for planning the second time). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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