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Obdurate......bloody love it.

New term of abuse for husband......actually I prefer 'stop bloody obdurating', not a word I know but works for my old man don't you think?

Just looked it up - an excellent word indeed. I guess we've all been guilty of it at one point or another (he says, diplomatically).

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I didn't say it was enjoyable.

That said, I actually do find the whole ridiculous notion of performing this act mildly amusing. I guess we differ there. Apologies for rattling your cage with this one feral.

Sorry if that came across as hostile or judgemental, it wasn't intended that way, I 'said' it with a smile.

I didn't mean your comment anyway, yog. I shouldn't comment on other people's pleasures, each to their own, but poo and feet are not things I can fetishize about. I have a very delicate sense of smell, and a highly deveoped gag reflex.

My dentist (male dentist) told me 'don't let your husband ever tell you that you have a big mouth' as I was gagging while he was putting his hand in there - but I knew what he was really thinking! I can't even brush my back teeth without retching, but that's another problem and too much information, I'm sure.

I meant if it's a sexual act/fetish, then it's meant to be enjoyable, but it's not for me I'm afraid. I know poo disgust is learned, but my folks did their job well. I'm very private about using the loo as it is, I even bought my cat one of those litter trays with a hood because I assumed she needed privacy.

I'm just thinking practicalities here - would you do it outside, or in the bath, or on plastic? It's way too messy for my taste, so to speak. I couldn't even contemplate doing this with melted chocolate.

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Inspired by the above: CRAP

Verb: To defecate

Noun: What you produce when performing above

Also both adjective and noun: something worthless and

(C)rap - a form of music

I did like Grandmaster Flash though - 'it's like a jungle some times it makes me wonder how I keep from going under uh uh uh'

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Sorry if that came across as hostile or judgemental, it wasn't intended that way, I 'said' it with a smile.

I didn't mean your comment anyway, yog. I shouldn't comment on other people's pleasures, each to their own, but poo and feet are not things I can fetishize about. I have a very delicate sense of smell, and a highly deveoped gag reflex.

My dentist (male dentist) told me 'don't let your husband ever tell you that you have a big mouth' as I was gagging while he was putting his hand in there - but I knew what he was really thinking! I can't even brush my back teeth without retching, but that's another problem and too much information, I'm sure.

I meant if it's a sexual act/fetish, then it's meant to be enjoyable, but it's not for me I'm afraid. I know poo disgust is learned, but my folks did their job well. I'm very private about using the loo as it is, I even bought my cat one of those litter trays with a hood because I assumed she needed privacy.

I'm just thinking practicalities here - would you do it outside, or in the bath, or on plastic? It's way too messy for my taste, so to speak. I couldn't even contemplate doing this with melted chocolate.

I just love the idea of you buying your cat a litter tray with a hood. That is very thoughtful. I recall catching a direct look in the eyes of a dog I had while he was 'straining one out'. I swear I saw a look of utter indignity on his face.

Very happy to hear that I've got my wires crossed.

By the way - the other bit - the bit about the Cleveland Steamer. It wouldn't be my cup of tea either. It's mad what people will get up to. Mind you, I'd rather The Cleveland Steamer was the norm if we could swap it with taking away all these guns, tanks, warfare etc We really are a fucked up species.

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I just love the idea of you buying your cat a litter tray with a hood. That is very thoughtful. I recall catching a direct look in the eyes of a dog I had while he was 'straining one out'. I swear I saw a look of utter indignity on his face.

Very happy to hear that I've got my wires crossed.

By the way - the other bit - the bit about the Cleveland Steamer. It wouldn't be my cup of tea either. It's mad what people will get up to. Mind you, I'd rather The Cleveland Steamer was the norm if we could swap it with taking away all these guns, tanks, warfare etc We really are a fucked up species.

Yeah you're right. I'm interested in things like this though. The differences between people.

One thing that's always fascinated me is gender identification, because I relate strongly with the opposite sex. I've never thought I should be male, I've always been happy as I am, and yet I often realise I've modelled my behaviour on men rather than women.

So I can kind of relate to transgender, and at the same time not really. And I'd love to ask someone without causing offence.

It's a bit of a dilemma isn't it - how can you learn about individual differences without making someone feel different?

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and yet I often realise I've modelled my behaviour on men rather than women.

My wife is like this, much prefering the company of men rather than women. Her reason for this is that she claims she meets very few women who want to talk about the things that she does. She doesn't want to talk about children, make up, what's in fashion etc. She has indicated to me that she feels trapped at times at social events because other women will collar her and talk about make up etc

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This was in a list I saw on another site, what a great and emotive word.

Wow, there's a name for it. I get this feeling but only suddenly and briefly. There is also a long time in between having these feelings. When I have them though, they do spook me a little. I can't describe that 'spooky' feeling but my thoughts always turn to thinking about time. As time is mind blowing I find that I force myself to stop thinking about it, as deep down I know I'll never be able to come to a conclusion on it.

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This was in a list I saw on another site, what a great and emotive word.

A great Welsh word that has no direct translation into English. It refers to a longing for Wales - possibly a Wales of the past, though the spirit still lives on in many communities.

The University of Wales, Lampeter attempts to define it as homesickness tinged with grief or sadness over the lost or departed. It is a mix of longing, yearning, nostalgia, wistfulness, or an earnest desire for the Wales of the past.
Hiraeth bears considerable similarities with the Portuguese concept of saudade (a key theme in Fado music), Brazilian Portuguese "banzo" (more related to homesickness), Galician morriña, Romanian dor and Turkish gurbet
Those of us lucky enough to live in Wales understand it
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Those of us lucky enough to live in Wales understand it

Ups there I go again - I just took it literally so didn't know it refered to Wales and was not a more general feeling about the past. I've done several nights with only a handful of hours sleep now and think it's taking it's toll on my mental capacity. Which was never off to a flying start to begin with.

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A great Welsh word that has no direct translation into English. It refers to a longing for Wales - possibly a Wales of the past, though the spirit still lives on in many communities.

The University of Wales, Lampeter attempts to define it as homesickness tinged with grief or sadness over the lost or departed. It is a mix of longing, yearning, nostalgia, wistfulness, or an earnest desire for the Wales of the past.

Hiraeth bears considerable similarities with the Portuguese concept of saudade (a key theme in Fado music), Brazilian Portuguese "banzo" (more related to homesickness), Galician morriña, Romanian dor and Turkish gurbet

Those of us lucky enough to live in Wales understand it

Ups there I go again - I just took it literally so didn't know it refered to Wales and was not a more general feeling about the past. I've done several nights with only a handful of hours sleep now and think it's taking it's toll on my mental capacity. Which was never off to a flying start to begin with.

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This was in a list I saw on another site, what a great and emotive word.

I don't think you'd necessarily have to be Welsh to feel hiraeth, though it is something that Welsh people seem to 'get'. Just reading the word brings on that feeling. Obviously, since it's a Welsh word that sort of means homesickness (but much more) it relates to Wales, but I'm sure it must be a common human feeling. It's that aching feeling you get.

What do you think, grumpyhack?

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Hiraeth discussed:

http://www.smith.edu/kahninstitute/shortterm_projects_hiraeth.php

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/arts/yourvideo/media/pages/val_bethell_01.shtml

http://talesofhiraeth.blogspot.co.uk/2008/04/what-does-hiraeth-mean.html

http://www.americas.visitwales.com/news-and-features/hiraeth-for-beginners/index.html

So hiraeth is a protest. If it must be called homesickness, it’s a sickness come on—in Welsh ailments come onto you, as if hopping aboard ship—because home isn’t the place it should have been. It’s an unattainable longing for a place, a person, a figure, even a national history that may never have actually existed. To feel hiraeth is to feel a deep incompleteness and recognize it as familiar.

From http://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2012/09/18/dreaming-in-welsh/

It is my favourite Welsh word, closely followed by cariad and cwtch.

Somehow, Welsh words mean the emotion as part of the words, they stimulate the emotion in a way that saying 'yearning' or 'homesick' don't.

And because the emotion is such a complex one, a direct translation is difficult, as you lose the complexity and the 'feel' of the word.

'hearth' and 'heart' are part of the complexity of the meaning, I'd say.

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